Can you post a screenshot of the login page you are having trouble with? Block out personal info if so! Here is the link to check your application status if you have gotten that far.
We had trouble setting up the portal too. In our case it was that my sonâs dual enrollment classes in high school are through IU so he already had an ID number. We tried to use it but couldnât get past the authentication and ended up getting blocked from trying too many times. We did have to call their student IT help desk and they were great. It ends up the authentication that he set up in class junior year had to be updated. They were able to help us out and we eventually got in, but it took a couple days to figure it all out. We called the student IT number listed on the website at around 6:00 pm CST and someone was there so I think they work into the evening hours.
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You are a international student right?
Iâm sorry this is becoming so stressful. Thatâs very upsetting. Forgive me if you already said this, but did you try calling admissions? Or, if they are hard to reach due to your schedule, you can try emailing admissions to let them know about the issue. Mention that you and your student have limited hours to speak with IT. My son had to email admissions due to a weird issue on his portal, and they were extremely responsive and helpful.
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I agree that IU does seem to have the worst back end process!! My sonâs application still says incomplete for transcript even though it was sent with Common App 2 weeks ago. I do have an older son at IU and it is otherwise an outstanding school. This process is very clunky though.
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My D applied Early Action on 10/31 via Common App and the IU application site still says itâs incomplete for transcripts even though we have confirmation they were sent - No issue at any other school⊠She called Admissions and they said it should update 4-9 days after it was submittedâŠitâs been 14 days so they transferred her to IT. The person in IT said it looks like you just applied a few days ago, give it a few weeks and it should work. What?
Unfortunately an IU ID issue is also blocking her from submitting a review request for Kelley.
Still unresolved.
Oh, that sounds very frustrating! I would recommend printing or screenshot-ing everything you have that shows the date(s) items were submitted. Just in case their system is showing a different application date. In prior years, it would be a concern not to be able to get that Kelly application in as soon as possible, but it sounds like theyâve changed their review procedures/timeline so you should be okay if this IT nonsense drags out for a bit. You still have plenty of time to make sure that the application is reviewed as an early action, and plenty of time to apply to Kelly before the deadline.
Iâm so sorry you have to go through all of this!
We are in the same situation.
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Just checked it again and finally says complete with application date of 10/30 so good from an early action standpoint.
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In hopes this forum does not devolve into just complaining about IU process: when anything receives 10,000 applications at once there are going to be a few problems. IU processes transcripts differently than most schools so itâs not immediately validated from common app - could take a month depending on the high school and software. Anyone looking at portal schools and majors like pre-biz to biz and inferring admissions decisions is reading way too much into it. There is no plan to send admit decisions on Tuesdays or any other day.
The general optimism should be for a decision around December 15. IU believes this will greatly increase yield rate as there is very little evidence that applicants hearing early will enroll at IU other than just have heard early. They might lose a few students who hear from others and decide not to visit - but the yield rate on those students was very low to begin with. Schools like Kelley want to admit a class and not admit some and wait on others. Trust the process and maybe everyone will be pleasantly surprised earlier.
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On a positive my Dâs IU application updated yesterday as completeâŠand her IU ID is now recognized, so sheâll be able to submit the âreview requestâ for Kelley tonight.
She is hopeful that sheâll pass the review request, as the only item that prevented her from a direct admit was that she attended more than one high school (we moved for work).
Best of luck to all.
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My sonâs finally came back as complete, but still unable to view the review request for Kelley. How long did that take?
It took another 3-4 days?
I may have misunderstood. Her application updated yesterday as complete and her IU ID allowed her to view the Kelley request today. So one day later.
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Glad to read the positive. A lot of the concerns on portal ID and transcripts Iâm sure have to do with some of the direct admit programs and again the priors from IU are totally different this year. So reading this forum from 2023 or reddits are going to not be particularly helpful on timing. You should not be concerned with submitting the review request as if it being submitted Nov 14 versus Nov 20 will make a material difference in admissions. This is exactly a reason IU is moving to this process.
Once they can upload into their own software the general stats on review request applications they have an idea of what GPA/Test/ECs etc⊠they are looking for in applications probable to be admitted. Plus the number of auto-direct admits received and probable yield from that. The scoring of review requests for admissions is one part of the process - reviewing their class and yield probabilities and offering admissions is a totally different concept.
Kelley has 5 admissions staff for maybe 5,000 requests. 15 a day every single day to review until Jan 15 if all Kelley review requests come in from EA batch which isnât true but you get an idea. I know they are starting to look at review requests but this is very different than admissions and is why some are seeing portal change to their applications from âpre-business.â Kelley has uploaded the review request into the software.
The Kelley review request admit rate is around 25%. I think overall in 2022 it was 39% with 100% admit rate for auto-admits factored into that 39%. The vast majority of applications to Kelley come from this early action batch or at least the vast majority they will admit. IU and Kelley want to align on admission results. Most likely very highly skewed toward women admits for a period to try and impact the gender gap at Kelley. If you have applied to schools like Kelley or Luddy etc⊠it will most likely be a later university admit than earlier even though your application might be scored and reviewed already.
The maybe good news is when Hutton, SSA, Ace etc⊠all come out in the winter you will not have been waiting since September to fill those out or be invited as in prior years.
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Thank you so much for your insight! On a personal level, it can be anxietyâprovoking to be caught in the year they implement the new changes. But I think the changes were necessary, for a lot of reasons, and will be a benefit to Kelley in the long run. You cite an admit rate of 39% last year. I know Illinois and Wisconsin had direct admit to business rates of 24% last year. It sounds like Indiana may be moving in that direction. Being more selective will help Indiana obtain a gender balance, which I think will then increase demand for the program.
Itâs a little funny to me that the Wisconsin program is so much more selectiveâI just listened to a podcast in which the dean of the Wisconsin business school talked about the things they needed to do to become a top 10 school. And he specifically said a number of things they needed to do âlike Kelley.â
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Hi, regarding your last point. Could you clarify? Are you saying that there are no more essays or follow up documents required to get into ACE and potentially other scholarships? Are they only using the submitted application documents to make those decisions?
Thanks, Jef. So this means the acceptance will include
- IU acceptance
- If applicable, direct admit (either through meeting the criteria or through holistic evaluation),
- For high stats kids, HHC and/or invite to apply for SSA scholarship
All at same time, likely December
Am I getting that right?
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I appreciate parents generally want a clear rubric and thatâs just not the case in college admissions.
I donât know when IU will release decisions. Optimism is good, but optimism in my opinion would be hearing in mid-December with certainty by January 15. Anything in November is most likely going to be not based on time of application submission but instead the auto-direct admit applicants where there is zero admissions question and even more likely high stat in-state students which is where the Universityâs focus is and should be as a State institution. IUâs yield rate was mostly the same with 35,000 apps 4 years ago with 50k apps last year so it wasnât doing IU any good to have rolling admits anymore. Those early admits were poor yield.
IU is supposedly going to align admissions with direct admit schools where applicable. This could cause certain students to hear later than others not in review requests. If Kelley decides to wait on admissions as they review most of their EA apps they may go to a more wait list concept rather than prior years where you were IU admitted but pending Kelley in what was in reality a wait list.
Hutton and SSA are invitation WITH essays and a lot of IU is based on GPA/SAT but again I donât know how they will invite students to apply strictly speaking. Test Optional kids are very difficult to figure out how any schools not on West Coast are going to deal with test optional in practical reality. They talk a big game, but when you score admits mostly 1-5 with 1 being highest on categories and a no score on one like SAT itâs difficult to practically figure that out from kids who do submit and maybe get a 2 or 3 in that category. The closer to Jan 15th admission is received the more aligned in time Hutton/SSA will be - I do not believe those invitations will be part of the admission decision. Itâs very different than West Coast schools for example where you apply for Honors at the time of application and many send you merit with decision.
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Overall I would think about admissions like this and itâs true for pretty much every college:
They care that you took Calc AB. Very predictive to college success. Zero application in reality. Some are slightly inching into did you take Statistics.
They care about a certain SAT score with a certain GPA. It really matters zero whether you are a 1520 SAT or 1410 SAT in predictive behavior anymore than it does whether you received a 3.8 or 4.0 GPA. Students and parents really want to be able to note if I get a 4.0 and 1550 will I be accepted, but what about a 3.98 and so on. The predictive quality is in the band of a certain SAT/ACT with a certain GPA. Which is also why rigor is not so important in this analysis because it doesnât matter if you had a B vs taking easier schedule with As when I have SAT. This is also why Test Optional is such a difficult admissions concept. They lose one of the three most predictive factors.
Once you get away from these two bands then itâs about reading a holistic application on rigor, grade trends, ECs, essays.
Kelleyâs direct admit automatic stats are a very clear example of this. For their population they can predict âsuccessâ which means to them staying and graduating with relative achievement with a certain GPA and test score. And what if I had a 4.0 but a 1350 SAT is not predictive of success so itâs about the whole application.
Parents and students mostly hear what they want to hear and want to take their success into a spreadsheet that they want to tell them do they get admitted if I do X. Which is totally understandable.
Colleges are businesses. They model predictive success because students who leave are big losses.
Two totally different concepts.
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