Appreciate the perspective. Per CDS only 54% submitted scores in 2023 (likely less this year), so hopefully their models have decent data points to use.
It will take a decade to model the impact of TO. Some schools are using applications to provide a equity concept noting first generation student or diversity backgrounds to replace the test score in the scoring process. Some schools are trying to use academic rigor analysis to find a score for the application as an equivalent to as if the student took a SAT. This kind of analysis is a massive person-power concept where the University would have to hire multiple additional personnel. You see that at a few Ivyâs. The larger state schools are going to be slower to that process. It will be very interesting to see how Test Optional is treated this class versus the last two. Because they really prefer you submit the score and how they âencourageâ that is something to watch. Getting a new model instead is very expensive. Far more common on the west coast to be tolerant of that or not even use SATs like UW or sometimes the UC schools as Test not considered.
Hello. New to this site. Has anyone actually been accepted to IU yet? My DD applied on 12 Oct. 1350 SAT and 4.15 GPA. We are OOS but my DS is a sophomore at IU. This year the application process is very different.
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Hi Jeff,
Someone posted this link from IU last year, what do you think?
Itâs about admit rates at all IU campuses and can broken down by major.
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None yet. They promise before Jan 15, hoping for a few batches sooner but itâs not clear this year. New process.
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âWe expect to begin releasing decisions in early December and you can expect a response by one of the dates listed on the deadlines page.â - Bloomington Office of Admissions (Direct Communication)
Here is the most accurate account on when decisions are coming out, from the AO.
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Really interesting data. Thanks for sharing. Looks like nearly all OOS applicants (we filtered by NJ, Male) are getting into Kelley. We assumed Kelley was more difficult for direct admit so had my son apply Arts & Sciences (Economics). Based on this data, Kelley may have been the way to go.
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Something about the filters leads to inaccurate data, probably something in the sub-filters that automatically generate. I do not believe only 10 out of state students were not admitted last year to Kelley and 1 in-state not to mention the out of state ratio surely cannot be 3:1 admits. But if thatâs true - no reason to stress about review requests! The yield rate for example on Test Optional students is under 2%? That doesnât make any sense. The general gross numbers on applicants and enrollees is accurate-ish with other published data like on CDS.
My theory is, the data is showing admitted to the University. So if a kid applied to Kelley but just got admitted to the University, and not Kelley ⊠that would show up as an admit on this data. Maybe Iâm wrong? To me, it seems intuitively correct, because I would expect most of the out-of-state kids applying to Kelley are strong students. Maybe not strong enough to get into the limited seats of Kelly, but strong enough to be admitted to the University pre-business.
I can tell that the overall admit numbers in this data match up with our high school admit rate in Naviance. But in Naviance, I canât tell who got into their preferred major.
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I just noticed the change to my sonâs portal from Pre-College Arts & Sciences to Arts & Sciences Undergraduate. Was it ever determined if that is significant?
Unfortunately, we donât know what it means. Because the admissions/notification process is different this year, we have no guidance from prior years. My best guess⊠it indicates the school of arts and sciences has given a thumbs up for direct admit. Which would be a good sign. But we wonât know until the University starts sending out acceptance letters if it was an early indicator of direct admit.
Good luck! As the song goes ⊠the waiting is the hardest part!
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It seems as if we are going to be the control group going forward!
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Is there a correlation between getting invite to apply and get accepted to women leadership program and admission. My D24 applied to Kelly and got an email in Oct to apply for the women leadership program. Got accepted too. Does that increase her chances for admission to Kelly?
The school change from Pre to Arts & Sciences is a software program input. You would see this same question in forums on this site and others for any other college that uses that software. It doesnât mean you wonât be admitted but that input is not an admission decision input. It simply means Arts&Sciences has access to your app. Everyone is focused on admission right now understandably but if you were denied admission that input would be the exact same as it is now. If you were not accepted directly into A&S but into IU general it would change again to show Pre.
There is no correlation to invitation to YWI and admission. Itâs a recruiting tool for seniors in the fall because IU very much wants women applying to and accepting into Kelley. I do not believe Kelley even started reviewing non auto-stat apps until early November. But if they accept your applicant theyâd like your applicant to attend and going to YWI in theory helps that with stickiness. And honestly YWI is an excellent experience so you should have your applicant attend IMO no matter what if they are considering IU or biz school elsewhere.
It took 2 days and several calls to IT, who could not seem to find anything wrong with the account, but finally chatted with a young woman at the help desk who guided us through a pass phrase change (which funny enough accepted the original pass phrase that wouldnât allow a log in), so access has been achieved. And all documentation was received by the EA date, so thatâs a relief and now the waiting begins. Hopefully everything going forward will be a bit more straightforward. This was the most complicated process (of 10) for setting up an applicant portal account for sure.
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Iâm choosing to be optimistic and reading it that way, too! I also see my D has a student ID that is different than her app number. We booked a trip for December in hopes that Iâm right!
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Optimism is great. My message is mostly for those who do not see a portal change or invite to YWI or anything else. See anything as you wish, admissions clues are a time honored message board tradition, but donât feel any anxiety if you donât see those either. The downside of clue hunting is the downside impact for those who donât see those clues. 50 or so days everyone will know.
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If I filter for Kelly School of Business admitted status, I am seeing 1899 admitted students for 2023 and out of state students are getting almost 100% acceptance. Looks promising for my son.
When I play around with that applied/accepted spreadsheet I canât figure out how to break out pre-business in the accepted data. I find it hard to believe Kelley accepted almost every OOS person that applied (particularly because Kelley reported a 40% acceptance rate to Poets & Quants for their last annual ranking). But I can see a scenario where almost all of the kids who apply to Kelley from OOS are admitted to IUB in some capacity. Per the spreadsheet, IUBâs yield for OOS is lower than for in state (43% in state v 13% OOS), which means IUB has to accept more OOS kids to fill its classes. IUBâs acceptance rate for all OOS is 82%. In general, that high of an acceptance rate usually means if you fit the profile of the school (middle 50% on stats), the school is a likely/safety. Because we donât know the historic break out of Kelley to pre-business admits, we canât say that Kelley is a likely/safety.
For a programme ranked 7th on USnews, isnât this acceptance rate not a bit too high?