<p>Collegehopefull, it is only true that a relatively small percentage of misguided ivy proponents "look down" on Cornell. There are a few students and faculty in certain top ranked programs and departments of Cornell too who, unfortunately, put down analogous programs at their peer schools. This is not to say, however, that students should not debate the merits of their school in a good-natured, and preferably collegial manner.</p>
<p>Also, while it is true that "you get out of a school what you put into it," it is equally true that the quality of the school matters very much. Yes, students will be greatly helped by their sustained initiative, but they will likewise be fortunate to matriculate into a academic culture of some degree of excellence -- the two are not mutually exclusive. </p>
<p>So, quality of student, and quality of school are both key aspects of a student's experience of higher education. They are synergistic and complimentary.</p>
<p>Not only is Cornell looked down on by other Ivies, it's looked down on by almost every single other four-year college in the United States. Cornell is a joke. You're better off going to a community college and transferring out if you want to actually get a job, because contrary to popular belief, employers DO look at where you went to school. I'm 100% sure this actually happens because I have a friend who works in the hiring office at a major company that I won't name, and he has specifically told me that there are a few red flags when they're hiring people: sex offenders, former mental patients, Cornell grads, etc.</p>
<p>Maybe things are different in the northeast, but I am from Texas and I don't understand how Cornell could be looked down upon.</p>
<p>I mean they have top medical, legal, and engineering programs. They are probably better in other things but those are the traditional big aspects. Its business program is good too, but not on the same level as Wharton. </p>
<p>In fact if it were not for the fact that Cornell is in Ithaca and has poor relative financial aid for the middle class I definitely would have applied. In fact I am contemplating getting my PhD from Cornell or MIT four years fom now.</p>
<p>It is really getting old hearing people bash Cornell mostly bc it is completely unfounded. I mean Cornell is a great school in top discplines so I don't understand how it could be bad. I think a school should be measured by how good its programs are, and well Cornell is tops in the ones that matter IMO.</p>
<p>I know people in major hiring positions who actually seek Cornell grads over Harvard or Yale because they've found the latter two have a sense of entitlement and apathy while Cornell grads, perhaps due to their scrappier place in the hierarchy, have something to prove. </p>
<p>No one cares in the real world. By that point, you've met enough dolts from Princeton and geniuses from Youngstown Community College to not jump to conclusions. They're all respected.</p>
<p>I did encounter a Harvard athlete this week who admitted he dropped out of high school and had to have major strings pulled to get him in. I think I lost a few IQ points just talking to the guy. So... whatev.</p>
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<p>I also talked ao a Harvard recruited athlete. And after talking to him, I just lost all my respect for Harvard. I asked him what he liked Harvard the most and he was like... "the classes... and... hmmm... the weather... yes definitely the weather..." </p>
<p>Boston? Nice weather? </p>
<p>WHAT?</p>
<p>I won't be disappointed at all when I get a rejection letter from Harvard in March/April. I also won't be happy if I am lucky/sad enough to get an acceptance letter.</p>
<p>Talking to recruited athletes makes me lose respect for recruited athletes, and not the fine institutions they attend.</p>
<p>It just seems to me that the best policy for an academic institution would be the individual academic merit of an applicant.</p>
<p>It's the most salient part of an application, and the area they had the greatest control over.
This would be supplemented by a no limit (but suggested cap) personal statement, and a large push to get every candidate interviewed.</p>
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Wait, so you talked to ONE person and that turned you off to an extraordinary university that has educated millions of intelligent people over the past 4 centuries or so? uh hate it break to ya, but at every college in the world, you will find people intellectually lacking, and that's true for whatever college you'll end up attending. </p>
<p>btw, some people actually love Northeastern weather, Boston included. Give me 4 seasons and a mild summer over the insane humidity and sweltering conditions in warm climates.</p>
<p>Yeah, that's probably not the reason. MIT, Caltech, Stanford and U. Chicago were all founded very recently. Some of them are barely 100 years old, but they're both more prestigious than most universities founded earlier.</p>
<p>Yep, and U Chicago's acceptance rate is what, 30%? it's still considered very prestigious. so it's not acceptance rate either. I think maybe because cornell is half public/half private?</p>
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<p>Yes.</p>
<p>By the way he grew up in Toronto... so...?</p>
<p>So wait a second, he was saying that Toronto weather does not = Boston weather...? WHAT?</p>
<p>Oh and don't give me that Harvard-is-the-best-university-in-the-universe ideology. To me, after having numerous... unpleasant experiences with Harvard grads, I have to say that it is a university treating undergrads like know-nothing slobs.</p>
<p>Molly, trust me, I have nothing against Cornell. I applied there. I hope I get in.</p>
<p>I'm just saying that if you're looking for your "Prestige" (because that's clearly the most important thing in the world; ask muertepablo), those are just some of the things that make you think of it. </p>
<p>But I am worried about not impressing those Civil War vets... I hate it when they call me a whippersnapper.</p>
<p>Is Cornell looked down by other Ivies. I don't know.</p>
<p>Is Cornell looked down by the world? No. By employers? Definitely not.</p>
<p>In Asia, Cornell's prestige pwns almost the rest of the Ivy League. You need to live in that part of the world to experience my not-so-obvious dialectics.</p>
<p>To the OP and others asking the same questions, I am really interested in knowing why you care? Do you think you'll somehow miss out in life if you go to a school where you had a great undergrad experience but was somehow looked down upon? Is it not enough for the school to be a great fit?</p>
<p>Muerteapablo, why do spend so much time on the Cornell boards trying in vain to disparage the fine university you transferred from, whilst relentlessly propagandizing your new school? The most obvious explanation is a deep seated academic insecurity on your part. Maybe someday you can take a cue from many of the fine professors at your current college, and grow up. Spitting over the fence at those who are rightfully your fellows in academia would be beneath you if you were in fact the “elite” student you purport to be.</p>
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<p>I think I've been pretty civil recently. Also, I was not one of the posters on the thread I linked to. You don't have a reason to be upset.</p>