<p>How would you rate Georgetown SFS in terms of lay prestige? I hear its Harvard , Yale and Stanford level. Some even
say its even higher caliber due to the Catholic heritage and its DC location, and it has the highest number of students and alumni from European and Middle Eastern Royal families and powerful South and Central American families.</p>
<p>My nephew ( SAT 2330 ; 3.96 GPA) was accepted by Harvard and Chicago and waitlisted at Georgetown SFS and Yale.
An average Joe will know of Harvard and Yale, and might not know about SFS Georgetown.
I would say Yale and Harvard are far more famous and have a lower acceptance rate, but they might not be as prestigious as Georgetown</p>
<p>In terms of “lay prestige” I’m not sure. When people I know ask me about my Georgetown acceptance I have to explain what SFS is to them. From my experience many educated people know Georgetown has strong programs in government/international relations, but have no idea what SFS is. Also keep in mind I am on the west coast.</p>
<p>I guess you could say SFS is to Georgetown what Wharton is to UPenn. </p>
<p>Georgetown is very prestigious, but it is simply not on the same level as Harvard or Yale, prestige wise. I would compare Georgetown to the “lower Ivies,” UC Berkeley, and maybe Duke. </p>
<p>Some departments are top-notch, i.e. SFS, but others such as Econ are not as good as the ones at HYPSM. </p>
<p>Georgetown isn’t neccessarily even comparable to the lower Ivies-it doesn’t have quite the same caliber of students, financial resources, or research opportunities. It’s peers are probably more along the lines of Emory and UCLA.</p>
<p>ennisthemenace I completely disagree. Most of the kids at Georgetown were qualified for HPY but simply could not get in due to #s. G’town gets kids with 800s on SAT and full AP class loads. It’s rigorous.</p>
<p>This also applies to Wharton school. Not rare to see SAT 2400 freshmen there!</p>
<p>These are my admissions results from this season, maybe they will add something of value.</p>
<p>Accepted: Georgetown SFS, Bowdoin, Amherst, UNC Chapel Hill (OOS)
Waitlisted: Dartmouth
Rejected: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, MIT, Williams, USC (lol)</p>
<p>SAT: 790, 770, 800 Composite 2360 (superscored from a 2240 and a 2310)
Subject tests: Math level 2 (770), US History (750), Biology M (730)
Weighted GPA (100 scale): 103.4
Class Rank: 30/620
AP: World History (3), Statistics (3), US History (4), Physics B (4), Biology (4), English Language (5) Spanish Language (did not take)
Senior Year Course Load: 6 APs - European History, US Government/Macroeconomics, Chemistry, Calculus AB/BC, English 4, Environmental Science
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): NMSF (one of the lucky folks to NOT advance to finalist, look at me now NMSC), AP Scholar with Distinction, Questbridge Finalist but did not do college match
Extracurriculars: LD Debate 10-12, JV XC 12</p>
<p>Essays and recs were top notch</p>
<p>Ethnicity: White as heck ; )
Gender: Male
Income Bracket: way lower than the 0 EFC threshold : (
Hooks: first generation, compelling personal story of hardship, Questbridge Finalist?</p>
<p>energia,</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing your results. Which state are you from? Are you attending a public school or a prep school?How many of your classmates are going to HYPSM this Fall?</p>
<p>@houseofcats</p>
<p>Texas, public, none.</p>
<p>I was the only one who applied to Ivies, 3 others applied to MIT, one of those applied to Stanford. None of us got in. The last Ivy someone got into from our school was Cornell, which hardly counts.</p>
<p>We get about 1-2 in the lower top 20 every year, Rice, WashU, and for the last 2 years, Georgetown. Generally even the top students in our class go to UT Austin or Texas A&M. We do better with the academies, I think we’ve got one going to West Point this summer, and we’ve had Air Force and West Point in the last few years.</p>
<p>All that to say we don’t have a great track record with HYPSM. This year looks like it’ll be me at Georgetown or Bowdoin, best friend at WashU (maybe), and the West Point guy (maybe). All others are UT/A&M/Baylor/ACU/Tech.</p>
<p>energia,</p>
<p>Depending on your major, most likely Amherst and Georgetown are in the same caliber as the ivies( some waitlisted and rejected Amherst and Gerogetown students ended up in ivies, and vice versa).</p>
<p>If you plan on going to graduate school at HYPSM, Georgetown is your best feeder school ( even better choice than non-HYP ivies). </p>
<p>I agree with ennisthemenace. Georgetown is not on par with any of the HYPSMs…more like Rice, WashU… great caliber of students but few strong or well-known disciplines. </p>
<p>Quite a few of Georgetown’s programs are extremely strong and compare well with any of the Ivies. There are also many fabulous research and internship opportunities, and unlike many of the Ivies, they are available to undergrads. Another important point is that all classes at Georgetown are taught by professors; that is not always the case at the HYPSM’s.</p>
<p>Georgetown’s SFS is well known and highly regarded throughout the country and if you are truly interested in government, politics, and foreign affairs, then I would submit that you can’t go to school in a better place than Washington D.C.</p>
<p>It is true though, that Georgetown’s endowment is quite a bit smaller than the Ivies. As such, financial aid is not as good, so if money is an issue it could be a deal breaker.</p>
<p>Bottom line: you won’t go wrong at any of these schools!</p>
<p>@Supernova123 - for once, something we can both agree on</p>
<p>@supernova123 how would you compare duke to hypsm?</p>
<p>Here is a link for the Georgetown University notable alumni:
<a href=“List of Georgetown University alumni - Wikipedia”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Georgetown_University_alumni</a></p>
<p>Here ia a link for Harvard University notable alumni:
<a href=“Harvard University - Wikipedia”>Harvard University - Wikipedia;
<p>Both lists are very impressive!</p>
<p>HYPSM are not really the caliber people ascribe to them. Not bad schools, but they are not head and shoulders above many of their lesser viewed peers. This is especially true when you look at individual programs within the universities. Much better to have an engineering degree from Texas than from Harvard, but if you ask the average person they would say Harvard. Most of the prestige schools are about reputation. The only tangible advantage to them is who you meet during your studies. Those who want to be ‘seen’ tend to go there. Great schools for politics, but then, so is Georgetown. We are blessed to have literally hundreds of top-notch universities in the US. For some, they all boil down to 5-10. Pity them.</p>
<p>Wharton, MIT, Georgetown SFS, Harvard, Yale, Princeton and Stanford ( not in any order) are globally recognized as the most reputatable and prestigious American institutions.</p>
<p>No doubt some USA colleges ( including non HYP ivies) can compete academically , but prestigewise there is simply no match. </p>
<p>To me, Georgetown’s peer schools (for undergrad) are Vanderbilt, Notre Dame, Rice, Wash U, JHU, and Emory. My top-20(ish) private national university rankings go something like this:</p>
<p>Level 1: Harvard, Princeton, Yale
Level 2: MIT, Stanford, Columbia, UChicago, Penn
Level 3: Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell, Duke, Northwestern
Level 4: Washington U, Rice, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Johns Hopkins, Emory</p>
<p>State schools to me are much more difficult to differentiate at the undergrad level. I guess my top peer group might include U Mich, Berkeley, UVA, UCLA, UNC and maybe UW-Madison on the strength of its international rep and grad/PhD greatness filtering down to the peons…</p>