<p>Not to seem negative, but I need to be realistic, don't I? </p>
<p>31 ACT
Currently an accumulative 2.8-2.9 GPA (lazy student =/)
Only Band (marching and symphonic) as an EC
And I haven't applied yet.</p>
<p>There's no chance, is there? I know the ACT is on the high end for MSU, but the GPA is extremely low. I'd really rather go straight there after graduation this spring, but it would be better to attend Grand Rapids Community College, get a much better GPA, and then transfer, wouldn't it? Or is it worth the time to go ahead and apply?</p>
<p>I just don't know what to do. I'm definitely going to be one of these people advocating working hard in HS in the future, though! Biggest regret ever.</p>
<p>Reach. MSU is much more GPA centered than score centered. Especially if you haven’t applied yet, it’s going to be very difficult. I know someone who got rejected last year with a 3.2, a 32 ACT and applied in October. </p>
<p>If you go to a CC and pull up your grades to a 3.5ish, you should have no problem getting in the spring semester. Work hard next semester, and get your grades WAY up.</p>
<p>^
Oh wow, everytime I see these situations it reminds me of how lucky my sibling was to get accepted. Sibling applied around early-mid March and was accepted around April-May. Sibling had a 18 ACT and GPA of about 3.3 W. Hook was probably being in upward bound. They never thought they would get into state, but if they seen cc they would probably see how extremely lucky they got.</p>
Well she was accepted for fall 2008, now she is a sophmore. Everything worked out great for her as she is need base aid ( efc 0) and has taken advantage of SAP.</p>
<p>Thanks for the replies. I’ve been accepted at a CC already, but I think they require two years before a transfer or something…that’s something I need to look into. A spring transfer would be absolutely perfect though.</p>
<p>I’m going to give MSU a try and see if maybe it’ll happen. It’s a reach, but I’m due for some good luck hopefully!</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>@Coolbrezze</p>
<p>That’s incredible! o_O I wish that would happen to me, haha. What exactly is Upward Bound?</p>
<p>I have in the past, but have not been looking too closely at them recently. I live in Grand Rapids and attend a pretty small high school (approximately 100 graduating, I believe) and for some reason, none of those three are emphasized here. Are they worth looking into? </p>
<p>The low GPA is dragging me down so badly =/ Even my ACT score is not exceptional.</p>
<p>Well you will get in to all three of them. Tell me, what type of major do you want to pursue? I might be able to point you to the right one lol.</p>
<p>Haha, I was just coming back to add possible majors! I have a lot of ideas, but I’m definitely unsure.</p>
<p>Possibilities:
Pre-Vet (will eventually transfer to MSU’s Vet School)
Japanese (several schools offer)
Korean (only MSU as far as I can find. Japanese and Korean will be done together, as either major-minor or double majors. It depends on what the school offers. The languages will be used to go to either country and teach English, more than likely)
Criminal Justice (to become an FBI Agent, which is what I’ve wanted to be for a long time. Lately, I’m not so sure. I would also entertain the idea of becoming a police officer.)
Photography
Nursing (Or is it pre-nursing first? If I decide on this, I really would like to specialize in ER, neonatal, or pediatric, but there is no specialization at the college level, is there?)</p>
<p>And that’s just a start. I’ve got a lot of ideas, but am unsure. That’s why MSU was such a logical choice if my grades were better, because they’ve got pretty much all of them, including Korean.)</p>
<p>(Sorry for length! Thank you so much for your help! I know this is starting to turn into career advice a little bit.)</p>
<p>^ Not necessarily, especially given how late the OP has applied. 3.0s really do not cut it anymore, even with a high ACT. </p>
<p>Sorry for the delay OP, you know Thanksgiving and stuff got in the way lol. </p>
<p>I don’t think that MSU offers Korean as an actual language, but I could be wrong. </p>
<p>Eastern has a pretty decent Japanese department, or so I’ve heard. They also offer pre-vet, photography, and criminology. All in all, I would definitely say Eastern has the most of what you are looking for. Plus, the credits transfer pretty well between Eastern and MSU.</p>
<p>^^^MSU does offer Korean classes as part of the LL (less commonly taught languages) department. I’m pretty sure there is no korean major/minor though.</p>
<p>Eastern might be worth a try, then. I was on their website the other day though and they’ve already taken the down the housing application for Fall 2010, which could be a problem.</p>
<p>Oh shoot, I thought MSU offered Korean as a minor. That could be a problem! I’m thinking that studying languages might be good, because not only can I go overseas with that, but I can also get into the FBI with a fluency in both Japanese and Korean. I’m sorry to keep asking for questions, but do either of you know of a school with a good Korean department? I know it isn’t a commonly studied language, but having both could greatly increase my chances of being accepted into the FBI, as both are on the critical list.</p>
<p>This is very difficult without knowing for sure what I want to study, goodness. I appreciate all of the help though; this is far more advising than our guidance counselor is offering us!</p>
<p>EDIT: I used the college search to find a college with both Japanese and Korean and used the least specific search criteria I could and came up with one school: University of Hawaii at Manoa.</p>
<p>According to Collegeboard, the only schools with those majors are: Brighman Young University (you might get in to, but it’s Mormon); Columbia University (you won’t get in to); University of British Columbia (No idea, but it’s in Canada lol); University of California: Irvine (You won’t get in to); UCLA (You won’t get in to); University of Hawaii at Manoa (Looks like your stats are in range); University of Washington (big reach). </p>
<p>Looks like U of Hawaii and Manoa is your best bet.</p>
<p>Just to let you know, a language minor really won’t help you in the long term. Just because a minor or major isn’t offered doesn’t mean you cannot take classes/gain proficiency in the language of question. For example, MSU does offer Korean up to 3rd year and then you can take independent study of the language with the professor. To avoid limiting too many of your options, I’d suggest the OP to look at schools who just offer a wide range of classes in these languages (check out each school’s course catalog).</p>
<p>romanigypsyeyes- Thanks for finding those schools for me- prospects still don’t look good. I will probably end up with the local CC or one of the smaller unis I applied too. I actually finished the application for Eastern today and just have to get the fee waived and that’s in. Thanks for the recommendation!</p>
<p>fa-la-la-lena- That’s true; I hadn’t thought about it that way. The FBI only requires a four-year degree and then language fluency on top in order to qualify under dialect program; that doesn’t mean a minor or major. I just feel like taking the classes isn’t quite an accomplishment without a degree, but that’s not necessarily true.</p>
<p>Lrn5321-My thoughts exactly. Thanks!</p>
<p>So, I’ve narrowed down my career options down finally (and hopefully permanently!) to nursing or the FBI. Fortunately, the general degrees for these can be achieved at most colleges, so I can start almost anywhere. The only thing will be finding the best language program in order to get as fluent as possible in Japanese and/or Korean in order to qualify for one of the FBI’s programs, should I go with that route. Basically, I’ve got an idea of what to do now =] MSU seems best for the languages, as well as study abroad, so that does seem like the ideal final destination. If Eastern has a good Japanese department to begin in, then all the better! Money is an issue though, so I need to check twice on the tuition.</p>