<p>DD and I would love for her to have a LAC college type of experience, but besides her interest in the arts and French, she's pretty certain she wants to major in business as an undergrad (I was hoping she'd consider saving it for the MBA). Any schools in the eastern half of the US that fit this bill?</p>
<p>Bucknell. Excellent academic reputation, beautiful campus, strong athletics program.</p>
<p>Its too bad that schools offering a business degree tend to also be "major frat/sorority scene" schools.</p>
<p>Liberal treehuggers hate business. Either you wanna go smoke a bowl and get down with your inner peacenik or you want to have a few brews, go to the football game, and go to work with IBM after college.</p>
<p>Barrons:</p>
<p>What a load of baloney. </p>
<p>The reason that you don't find "business" degrees at most elite colleges and universities is that it considered a vocational program. At most top LACs and universities (the undergrad program at UPenn's Wharton School being an exception), business-oriented students major in Economics. Economics is often the most popular major at top LACs. It is the #1 major at both Williams and Swarthmore for sure. I suspect the same is true at Amherst and Pomona, although I have not checked.</p>
<p>Political science is also a very popular major for business-oriented students. This is also a hugely popular major at every top LAC, I've looked at.</p>
<p>Generally speaking, a "business" major is only offered at the mid-tier LACs.</p>
<p>I guess the issue is why does she need a business major? Depending on what she goes into it will likely make absolutely no difference if she does Econ at a LAC. Top LACs are some of the best feeders into the corporate world.</p>
<p>barrons:
Why don't you take a minute to read your messages before posting them? What a stupid thing to "add" to a conversation.</p>
<p>Santa Clara University would be an option, if you want the west coast. Lafayette, too- but strong frat scene, as you said.</p>
<p>I see the sense of homor here is low. Lighten up folks. That said as in all humor, there is a nugget of truth.
MIT, Penn, UCB, Mich., Uva, UNC. Wash U, Cornell and a host of other good schools have ug business. Plumber is a vocation. Business is a profession.</p>
<p>Susquehanna University</p>
<p>Earlham has an excellent program in Business/Non-Profit Management.</p>
<p>In my humble opinion, no LAC contains a good (let alone excellent) Business program. The best B programs at LACs are average at best. Unlike traditional academic disciplines, the measure of a Business program is to a great degree determined by how well conntected it is to industry. This said, there are several good business programs at universities that are not much unlike LACs. Here are a few I can think of. </p>
<p>Boston College
College of William and Mary
Emory University
Georgetown University
University of Notre Dame
Wake Forest University
Washington University</p>
<p>SUSHI - Washington & Lee University - Lexington, VA - LAC - large Greek piece (does not make it a bad school by any means!!!) - very well networked - Business!!!!!</p>
<p>SUSHI - Washington & Lee University - Lexington, VA - LAC - large Greek piece (does not make it a bad school by any means!!!) - very well networked - Business Degree!!!!! - Williams School of Commerce, Economics and Politics!!! check it out</p>
<p>sushi-</p>
<p>Ignore interesteddad and Alexandre's annoying condecension. barrons is at least amusing and somewhat correct, if not politically so.</p>
<p>There are good business programs at LACs like Bucknell, W&L, Rhodes, Lafayette, Richmond plus others. Barrons little point of wisdom is that business programs often thrive in more conservative schools, and they are also generally more Greek oriented. Funny that B-schools at Ivy's or many elite state schools don't attract such negative commentary.</p>
<p>SECONDTIMER - well said!!! and pretty true.</p>
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<p>Business schools at the Ivy League conference are mostly GRADUATE schools. Graduate schools are intended to provide vocational/professional training.</p>
<p>The only Ivy League schools that offer undergrad business majors or degrees are UPenn and Cornell. </p>
<p>That is not to say that these are the only Ivy League schools that produce a TON of business professionals.</p>
<p>It's not condescending. It's the meaning of the term liberal arts education, which is what Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Dartmouth, and Brown offer.</p>
<p>Not saying that undergrad business school, nursing school, agriculture school, mortuary school or anything else is not perfectly fine. It's just not what most of the elite private colleges and universities do.</p>
<p>Strictly speaking, the terms liberal arts college and undergrad business degree are inconsistent. The term "liberal arts" means a broad-based education requiring the study of humanities, hard sciences/math, and social sciences.</p>
<p>interesteddad-</p>
<p>By your definition, anything that varies from the classic description of LAC seems to in some way cheapen the school. Perhaps variation of programs is not a positive in your book.</p>
<p>Anyway there are some pretty good trade schools out there in smaller schools that are almost LAC like, folks if you want to chase that vocation, but evidently they aren't "elite". Actually, its best to pick a major that really is kind of not related to business like political science.</p>
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<p>Not cheapen at all. I just don't like the complete misuse of terminology.</p>
<p>You know that I think Harvey Mudd College is a fantastic school. I believe that it is best science oriented small undergrad college in the country and probably the most difficult small undergrad college to get into. It is NOT a liberal arts college.</p>
<p>Someone asking "why don't liberal arts colleges offer business degrees" is about like asking "why aren't red cars painted blue?" It has nothing to do with whether or not blue is a "cheap" color.</p>
<p>Back to topic - W&L DOES offer a LAC Business Degree - one of very few in the LAC catagory - and very well rated!!</p>
<p>ID - your description that describes ''vocational'' education leaves ALOT to be desired - not every student is destined for - or have the time reference - to pursue a LAC education - which in many cases requires grad school to get to even an entry level position.</p>
<p>To quote you ID..............
Strictly speaking, the terms liberal arts college and undergrad business degree are inconsistent. The term "liberal arts" means a broad-based education requiring the study of humanities, hard sciences/math, and social sciences. ....................liberal arts education is for many - not a chohesive route to pursue - tho most college programs do require a base of LA's in their requirements. </p>
<p>ID - your posts really do reveal your attitude that nothing less than a pure LAC is acceptable at the elite schools - you are sooo wrong. Sure would be a very boring society if all students pursued the same at the undergrad level - and not every has the opportunity to pursue what you seem to deem to be acceptable - at any level.</p>
<p>The original poster here has a valid question - why don't you at least attempt to provide the appropriate response instead of your dribble of your own well known opinions - HYPB etc...... are NOT the only GOOD schools in the world - and was not exactly what the OP was looking for.</p>