Leaving Princeton for Brown?

@AboutTheSame : See #2. I honestly think if OP could stay, he/she should stay. But it does not seem to work out that way, it is just not a good fit. FWIW to future Princeton applicants: make sure you know what eating club is before going to Princeton. Great dorms and great campus though. Difficult freshman math class.

@nrtlax33 : I’m afraid I do not understand your #40. I’ve gone back and looked at your #2, and I fail to see how it is responsive in any way to my comment. Yes, you were the first person to mention grades. That was my point. The OP did not. Drop it.

Lol @AboutTheSame - this thread was dead from late Feb until 1 post yesterday- not exactly ‘going off the rails quickly’. I am actually not a ‘Princeton fan’ per se- in my first post I called out what I saw as inaccuracies in the OP’s original post, and in the second I pointed out an event on campus that was directly relevant to the OP’s stated interests. Not exactly rabid boosterism. Anyway OP has now applied (or not) and will soon know if there is a choice (or not).

From http://web.stanford.edu/dept/CTL/cgi-bin/academicskillscoaching/why-does-the-duck-stop-here/
– “The appearance of ease and the subversion of effort seem to be at the Duck Syndrome’s core. I believe this syndrome stems from a variety of phenomena – that appearing to work hard isn’t cool because REAL geniuses come by it effortlessly (and if we show folks it’s dang hard work to be a student here then we’re not real geniuses and someone will kick us out – or worse – we’ll be humbled by our noticeable imperfection); that we live in beautiful sunny humid-free Northern California where we’re supposed to always be some combination of smiling, having fun, and appreciating our good fortune – because frustration, anxiety, self-doubt, effort, and failure don’t have a place in the Stanford experience; and that if we begin revealing how vulnerable and insecure and imperfect we are, our friends will turn out to be so self-absorbed they won’t actually care.”

From https://billypenn.com/2015/12/11/penn-face-and-the-social-ivys-suicide-problem-and-how-students-are-fighting-back/
–“Penn Face is a term familiar to most everyone on campus. It means putting on the facade that you’re perfect and your life is perfect, no matter how pressured you are to keep up with school and social life.”

From http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/12833146/instagram-account-university-pennsylvania-runner-showed-only-part-story
–“”“Even people you think are perfect are going through something difficult.”
The image had been put through a filter.”

I can go on and on and on. But the point is that at Instagram age, we should always look beyond face value, look below the surface to suspect the root cause of the problem. No one would admit they have difficulty academically. Student’s job is to study. The Daily Princetonian COMBO Series Survey (http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/princeton-university/1497933-the-daily-princetonian-survey-finds-almost-half-of-students-report-feeling-depressed.html), which has since been removed from school’s website, starts by quoting someone saying “Absolutely, this place is a freaking pressure cooker”. OP has not taken a STEM course at Princeton. There might or might not be a problem. I suspect straight A students at Princeton should be quite happy there. NYC is just an hour away. They can go there if they feel bored.

Should we ignore the academic issue simply because the students say they are fine? If school counselors chose to do this, there are risks for lawsuits (http://www.thedp.com/article/2017/08/timothy-hamlett-penn-suicide-lawsuit).

@Ben_Swolo How did you get into Princeton but not Brown? Did you get waitlisted?

@collegemom3717 : I have a bad habit of failing to look at when a thread started, so I constantly get fooled on that score. ^:)^ I guess a better phrasing would have been “this thread went of the rails quickly.” B-)

@livedexperience8 That’s actually fairly common (e.g. DD good friend admitted to Harvard and denied at every other Ivy except Cornell and Dartmouth (didn’t apply to those two))