<p>D2 received this email from UNC today... Is this a "likely" email or did everyone get this? D1 received the traditional "likely letter" a couple of years ago; this isn't the same, but I'm wondering if it's similar....</p>
<p>Dear xxxxx, </p>
<p>Thank you again for your interest in the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Now that our admissions committee has come to know you through your application, we are more convinced than ever that you are a student with an exceptionally bright future. </p>
<p>To help you decide whether the next step on your journey will lead you to Carolina, we would very much like to have you get to know one or more members of our Board of Visitors, a group of University leaders who have distinguished themselves in their professions and their communities, and who have volunteered to answer questions and share their experiences with outstanding students such as you.</p>
<p>If you would like to be contacted by one of these friendly and accomplished leaders, simply reply to this email. Your reply will serve as your consent to our sharing your name, phone number, email address, high school name, and academic interest with members of the board; we will not share any other information. </p>
<p>We hope that you will consider your contact with your Visitor a conversation, not an interview, and that you will feel to talk frankly about your hopes and concerns for the next four years. Our aim is to help you see clearly whether Carolina can help you grow into the person you want to become.</p>
<p>I do hope to hear from you, and I wish you every success as you prepare for college.</p>
<p>The message definitely sounds pretty "likely" to me. Admissions probably wants to invite your daughter to some special programs and visits aimed at talented students but wants some demonstrated interest (an email reply) to be sure they should make that effort.</p>
<p>I agree with leah. I'm guessing that yield is getting to be a more important factor for admissions and that they want to invest their time, effort and possibly money in those who are really interested in attending UNC and not in those who might be throwing things at a wall to see what sticks.</p>
<p>Just wondering astrophysicsmom, would you mind sharing some of your D's stats? or if there was anything that really would have made her stand out?
And did your 1st D end up going there?</p>
<p>*here's to hoping they just haven't mailed us the rest of ours yet :) haha</p>
<p>We're in-state, which is a massive advantage, I realize. 2180 SATs, top 5%, really strong ECs, lots of AP classes, etc. Her sister did not go to UNC, and unfortunately for my checkbook, it's not D2's first choice either..... but, who knows??!!!</p>
<p>I think they try to do more to woo in-state students; perhaps the email only went to in-state applicants.</p>
<p>Yeah that's what I was thinking (with the in-state), especially since I feel like they would know more definitively who they would be offering admission in-state, since OOS is so hard.</p>
<p>I received one of these when I applied to the University of Michigan several years ago. This had nothing to do with my odds of acceptance. This was done to try to persuade students to consider the school more strongly. I would encourage your d2 (whatever that is) to take advantage of this opportunity. For me, it made the difference between choosing a place based on my ill-informed preconceived notions and deciding against a place for legitimate reasons.</p>
<p>I think eadad is correct about the yield thing. When our S rejected UNC for UMCP they wanted him to fill out an extensive questionnaire explaining why he chose another university. He had received a LL on Black Friday and ultimately was invited to the honors program but not awarded any merit $. Admissions later called, as I recall to see if guaranteed admission to the business school would change his mind.</p>
<p>One of the stated goals of new Chancellor Thorp is to find ways to convince more of the top in-state students admitted to UNC to matriculate. There has been somewhat of a "grass is greener" mentality coupled with the fear that they will feel like they are still in high school when many from their classes are attending UNC. This last premise has been thoroughly refuted by many of the in-state posters here on CC.</p>
<p>Since it is the flagship school in the UNC system it can hold a higher bar for all admissions and one way to attract the best and brightest in state students is to make even in state admissions more difficult. There have been numerous reports and studies done by admissions through the years (like the questionnaire that Maximus refers to) to try to determine why people turn down UNC offers of admission. It has frustrated admissions because one of the answers they get from top in state students who actually do turn down UNC usually always mentions something to the effect of others they know who are going to UNC that they don't view as peers either intellectually or socially. Unfortunately if they actually did set foot on campus they would find a very different reality.</p>
<p>Yield is becoming a bigger issue at many schools as the financial crisis grows because budget cuts in all departments, including admissions, mean that they need to find ways to be smarter about who they admit, who they offer merit money to etc.</p>
<p>The brilliant NC laws regarding merit scholarships are a bit convoluted, also. I recognize that it is an exceptional value for in-state students to begin with (and, of course is one of our "talking" points to our daughters.) However, other than the Robertson and Moorehead scholarships, UNC's merit aid to in-state students does not fully cover tuition, and does not cover room and board. </p>
<p>"Recipients from North Carolina receive renewable awards of $xxxx per year; those from out-of-state will receive an award equivalent to the cost of tuition, fees, room and board."</p>
<p>I was never quite able to figure that one out. My oldest daughter was valedictorian of one of the best public h.s.'s in NC (with all the other etc that goes with it) and the merit aid offered to her was less than stellar. My current daughter is hoping for strong merit aid elsewhere so she can join her sister (and Maximum's son!) a bit north of here.</p>
<p>It really all comes down to perception I guess. MY D is a junior at U South Carolina and there are so many people there from Maryland who didn't want to attend UMCP (for all the typical reasons that people reject their in state schools) that they refer to USC as UMSC (UM-South Campus). :) </p>
<p>Additionally USC is throwing such incredible amounts of merit money at top OOS kids that it makes attending there less than staying in their home states which is and was certainly the case with my D who got very generous merit money, a departmental scholarship AND in-state tuition. It costs me less to send her there than it did to her private K-12.</p>
<p>How does your D like South Carolina? I thought about applying there, and still could. That's really funny about the UMSC thing.. I was born in MD but have been gone for a little, so I wouldn't be opposed haha.</p>
<p>a very good friend of mine chose USC after she was deferred and then waitlisted from carolina. all summer long, USC sent her notices of more and more scholarships. when they finally stopped throwing merit aid at her, the cost was significantly less than UNC in-state!</p>
<p>however, my friend is not happy at SC. she finds the courseload overly easy (even in the honors program) and has a 4.0 without much effort at all. she finds greek life to be too prevalent and, being very liberal, finds the student body to be overwhelmingly conservative. she is planning to apply to transfer to carolina after this year (her first). </p>
<p>i'm sure, though, that different people have different experiences--eadad's daughter may well love it at USC. i strongly believe that college is what you make of it!</p>
<p>She ultimately chose USC because of her intended major, Sports Management, which is the top program in the country. Unlike most schools, USC runs their program as an adjunct to the business school and not the school of education. The major has the highest number of required courses of any major offered there and she will end up with something like only 4 or 5 total elective courses when she graduates. There are also two required internships as graduation requirements so her course load and work is not exactly easy in her major. In fact if you look at her course load for this whole year you would think she was in the B school.</p>
<p>She did go Greek, which was one of the things she was looking for when she selected her schools, and she does find the great majority of people to be far more conservative than she herself is. Her three house mates are all from NJ and two of three are as liberal minded as she is so at the end of the day it's all good. She is very strong willed and stands her ground in arguments where her liberalism might come into play but sometimes she does get very frustrated with how narrow minded some people are.</p>
<p>All in all, she is very happy at USC and is being very well prepared for what she wants to do in life. She plans to attend Law School and either work for a professional franchise or be an agent.</p>
<p>One very cool thing is that yesterday she was selected to work at the Master's in Augusta next spring...she's very excited about that!</p>