"Men who express concerns about women are whiners or misogynists"

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Actually when people call someone emotional that is not a positive statement (most of the time). IMO it is just another way of saying whiner. Dismissing someone as emotional is saying they lack control over their emotions and can't think clearly. I know emotional can be used as a good thing but usually it means somebody is "drama" or too sensitive.

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It's much easier to finesse emotional into an ambivalent personality trait than whiny. Plenty of people don't mind being emotional; most people would mind being called whiny.</p>

<p>Usually when emotional doesn't have a negative connotation, it's in reference to events that don't have anything to do with complaining. Like if one of my relatives died, someone might say of me that I am a little bit emotional right now due to the loss, and it is not meant to be negative, but it also has nothing to do with any sort of complaint...it's just an event. When it becomes an actual personality trait, it's meant in the sense that the person overreacts to things, which is meant to be negative. </p>

<p>I wouldn't want someone to call me emotional for expressing a concern about something, because that implies that I am overreacting to it and causing more fuss than necessary, which is negative. I wouldn't want someone to call me a whiner either, because that implies that I complain too much about things that are really insignificant. The end point is that no one wants to hear anyone else complain about something, regardless of who they are or what they're complaining about.</p>

<p>What about men who choose to "complain" about something by getting really, really angry about it? I've seen my dad do this dozens of times, but it doesn't fall under the category of whining...more like ranting and raving.</p>

<p>Whatever, BlahDeBlah. I don't mind discussing things, but all you want to do is redress whatever I said through some personal filter of yours. There's nothing to be gained by discussing a general idea by overspecifying it.</p>

<p>Bumping this thread up.</p>

<p>What the **** is with your forum necromancy, you woman-bashing ****? GTFO the forum.</p>

<p>-A decidedly male anti-dumb**** poster</p>

<p>What are you talking about other than complete and utter garbage?</p>

<p>Goin back to MacTech posts, how much of your examples is you just lacking a sense of humor?
Sorry, but I have a very dark sense of humor. Sites like tshirthell.com make me laugh. Thing is, I take very seriously in real life what I laugh at. I can laugh at jokes poking fun at everyone, because I've learned to realize humor is nothing. It's just words. Furthermore, life is just one big joke, and once you ALL realize that, and stop having sticks up your rears about political correctness, life becomes infinitely more enjoyable.</p>

<p>What I can say is that women may like the guy that sympathizes for a friend, but i have NEVER heard a woman say they'd marry him. Every woman I know says they want a guy to be assertive but loyal. They want the guy to take charge, but listen at the same time. In the same way, most mature guys want the girl that listens to him, but at the same time, doesn't need handholding or such.</p>

<p>Then again, I also think that a man and a woman should complement each other's personalities, and in essence, form a singular personality superior to what they'd be on their own...</p>

<p>**** that. The day I listen to a man, or let him take charge, is the day I die.</p>

<p>And I'm sure you'd never ever ever try to control his life either, right? ;)</p>

<p>I agree with what gone2gofish is getting at for the most part. </p>

<p>And I don't think "taking charge" is about control at all...it's about being upfront about what you want and where things are going. And yeah, I'd really like the guy to be the one initiating all of that so I can feel comfortable putting myself out there as well. That may be selfish, but everyone is to an extent...so meh.</p>

<p>It's nice you can justify your selfishness.</p>

<p>And it's nice that you're a complete ass that can't admit his own faults but has no problem highlighting those of others.</p>

<p>Jason why bump this? You just come off as hateful and irrational in 99% of these posts not to mention troll like.</p>

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People who have been on this board for more than a week or so probably know already that I'm a guy. *I'm also straight. *

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<p>Keep telling yourself that.</p>

<p>Hateful? Irrational? How so?</p>

<p>God, I hate feminists. That's all I have to say about this.</p>

<p>God, I hate people who stole the word "feminist" and made it dirty. All it means is someone who thinks women should have the ability to be equal to men socially and politically, which is actually what most people believe anyway.</p>

<p>I want my word back.</p>

<p>^^ Agreed.</p>

<p>That's because third-wave feminism is insane. I'm a supporter of second wave feminism, in which all people of all things have equal oppourtunities.</p>

<p>They should make up their own name then. "Crazy biatch" sounds about right, cause us true feminists already took our word. ;)</p>