<p>What are you going to attach for additional info section? I was thinknig about doing an activities list since theres no room to explain ur activities in detail.</p>
<p>P.S. How do you calculate UMich GPA? I hear core classes for soph/jun year.. what exactly are the core classes? 4 classes a year(english,math,socialstudies,science)?</p>
<p>UMich GPA</p>
<p>1) Take out Freshman year
2) Take out all non-academic classes (only English, History, Math, Science, and Foreign Language)
3) Take out all grade boosts, make it a 4.0 scale
4) Take out all +/-</p>
<p>(yes, all your B+ grades in AP classes are counted as a 3)</p>
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<p>As for additional info, if you run out of room at any of your ECs, grade explanations, family members, anyhwere, just attach the info from earlier.</p>
<p>Admissions counselors don't want to see a long list of superflourus activities. I spoke to a Michigan admissions counselor, and they said, just two or three heavily dedicated activities is fine.</p>
<p>im *$(&%$ ... does going to a good school help at all?</p>
<p>they don't even look at any other classes? wow i really dont know if i want to apply here anymore. they dont look at sat2's eitehr(800,780)</p>
<p>To people in general:
Geesh, so many people on this board talk about how they go to a challenging high school (more of an excuse for lower GPAs, I think). I don't care what people say, your high school doesn't have the national reputation you think it does.</p>
<p>To confidential:
The average in-state GPA is 3.7 but people get in with GPAs lower than that. However, if it's below a 3.0, you probably don't have a chance (I believe 98% of students have a 3.0 or above). If you did well on SAT2's than you can probably do well on the SAT and make yourself look like a good applicant. Your high school will let the college know the kinds of advanced classes they offer so they can judge whether 2 APs is a maximum courseload or slacking off, etc.</p>
<p>hey... does music count in this umich GPA? orchestra...? and how about music theory?</p>
<p>I doubt it, those don't seem like "core classes." They want stuff like math, english, science, etc.</p>
<p>yea, no music</p>
<p>No music, that's a grade booster.</p>
<p>Michigan does indeed look at school profiles when evaluating you. If you go to a school that they know about, and produces quality students, that will help you. Problem is, that's usually mainly "state" schools.</p>
<p>what about PLTW (Project Lead the Way) Classes. (Principles of Engineering, Introduction to Engineering Design)</p>
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<p>It doesn't have to have a national rep. Admissions counselors make it their business to know about schools.</p>
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If you go to a school that they know about, and produces quality students, that will help you. Problem is, that's usually mainly "state" schools.
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<p>No, it's not true that's U-M only knows about and favorably evaluated Michigan high schools. </p>
<p>After decades of receiving applications from all over the country, UM has a pretty good database on high schools all over. Remember that U-M gets MORE applications from OOS students than in-state students every single year. </p>
<p>Granted, if you're applying from Podunk County, Nebraska, they may not know your school, but they are able to find out things like the % who go on to 4-year colleges, number of AP courses offered, number of National Merit winners, and the mean ACT or SAT scores of students who took those tests.</p>
<p>I know that, but there is no doubt that U-M has a better feel of in-state schools than OOS schools, which is just one of the reasons that OOS students are at a disadvantage when they apply.</p>
<p>again, what classes can count towards the UMich GPA? Does Principles of Engineering count (A Project Lead the Way course)? How about AP Programming 2 (i assume that would count, it is an AP class...)?</p>
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which is just one of the reasons that OOS students are at a disadvantage when they apply.
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<p>That's not true, either. Generally speaking, OOS aren't competing with instate students on a head-to-head basis for places in the class. They're competing against other OOS students. If Michigan is relatively ignorant of OOS schools (something I still don't accept), then OOS applicants are all on a level playing field because they're equally disadvantaged.</p>
<p>would public speaking count as a core class? how about intro to psychology?</p>
<p>But that's what I meant hoedown. OOS is much tougher at Michigan, because there aren't that many OOS spots avaliable. You must be misinterpreting me.</p>
<p>A2Wolves6 means it is harder for out-of-staters because there are more out-of-state applicants than in-state, and half as many spots for them. This is why out-of-staters average a GPA 0.2 points higher (3.9) and an ACT 2 points higher (27).</p>
<p>Are you serious the average ACT for in-state applicants is 25, and that the GPA is only 3.7? </p>
<p>(starts dancing in the background because he realizes his chances are MUCH better than he thought)</p>
<p>Where is this information found?</p>
<p>I'm not so sure about those in state stats. I think the average is more so like a 27 through 28 ACT and maybe a 3.7 through 3.8 GPA for in-staters with the OOS averages being higher than those. I know several people that had above a 3.5 and 25 ACT that were in state and got deferred. Basically, everyone that I talked to at orientation had at least a 27 ACT with higher than average GPAs. (Including myself... I had a 28 ACT and a 3.9 Michigan GPA. Then again, I'm on CC so I'm not really sure how relevant that information is. ;))</p>
<p>Whoops, I meant ACT 2 points higher (29). The other info is correct, and much of it can be found on CollegeBoard or Princeton Review.</p>
<p>Oh well...</p>