<p>Lol yeah…I thought too well of him…<em>must be more cynical</em></p>
<p>Ah, maturity issues. Time to grow up.</p>
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<p>My long term fate is my own. My short term fate is semi-my own because I live under my parents’ roof. This is an easy distinction to make.</p>
<p>Of course I’m grateful for the blessings my parents have bestowed upon me. Food, shelter, clothing, internet, etc. They’re the reason I don’t need a job to support myself. Of course, we all fall into periods of taking things for granted, but usually, I’m pretty grateful. </p>
<p>If a person is spoiled, but grateful for it, is that person a spoiled brat? I’m not sure, but I think the “brat” part comes from being ungrateful for the spoils. Just a tangent.</p>
<p>And by the way, my online education is free. It’s funded by the state of California. </p>
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<p>Good post, SimpleLife.</p>
<p>By passive income, I mean the things you mentioned in addition to things like websites that generate advertising money, gumball machines, things like that. Please don’t confuse passive income with dependence on my parents. They’re two completely different things. Now, I’m a realistic guy. I don’t assume that I will be able to live entirely off of passive income, at least in the early stages of my life. That’s a pretty ridiculous notion, and why I’m going to college to get a lucrative degree to get a job that suits me, such as software engineering or something like that. I will live off passive income whenever possible.</p>
<p>Of course I realize everybody would love to live off of passive income. It might not be feasible for most people that are already bogged down by excessive responsibilities brought on by their families and careers, but, alas, I have no such responsibilities. I’m young and fresh.</p>
<p>It is perfectly rational to explain that I simply don’t like working on a schedule, or being around people, or making money the “active” way. And I will avoid things I don’t like whenever possible, and you should too. If I was dirt poor and taking care of a family, I don’t think I’d be able to avoid all those things I don’t like. But, be as it may, I’m not in that situation, and I don’t have to deal with the things I don’t like at this point in my life.</p>
<p>No one is debating whether or not I should obey my parents’ rules. I don’t really have a choice in the matter. What I’m debating is the validity and justness of said rules.</p>
<p>SimpleLife, being responsible doesn’t mean taking on unnecessary responsibilities whenever possible. People that do that just end up stretching themselves out too thinly. Being responsible means taking the responsibilities you do have - the necessary ones - and performing them to the best of your ability. I’m not going to go out and get a job when I don’t need one. That’s an unnecessary responsibility. But if my mother came down with some sort of horrible sickness, you can bet your ass I’d be at her side night and day. That’s a necessary responsibility. </p>
<p>When presented with a necessary responsibility, such as my grades, I don’t disappoint. Usually. :)</p>
<p>The same logic can be applied to hard-working.</p>
<p>I’m grown up in the sense that I can shoulder responsibility like the best of you. Even so, I think growing up has much more to do with coming to terms with the universe than learning to shoulder responsibility. Either way, I’ve accomplished one and am working on the other. </p>
<p>Yes, my parents have said that it’s time for me to start bearing some “financial responsibility” and such, but this responsibility is really just a facade. One of the “unnecessary responsibilities.” I don’t need the money. It’s just a ploy to get me out of the house and moving. I’m saying there are better ways to go about getting me moving than forcing me into a job I don’t want or need.</p>
<p>As for your 7th and 8th paragraphs, read my response to Hunt’s post.</p>
<p>Social anxiety is indeed debilitating. You have no idea how much I hate the dread that precedes required attendance at social gatherings. I hope the medication works too. :)</p>
<p>I don’t think an overnight UPS or FedEx job would quite fit in with my parents’ agenda, haha, but thanks for the suggestion.</p>
<p>I just read the Wikipedia article on Asperger’s Syndrome. While I do have a couple of the behaviors it describes, they’re not taken to the extreme of someone who suffers from Asperger’s. I don’t think I have it.</p>
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<p>I’d probably do pretty awfully at empathy (this is one of the things i share with Asperger’s sufferers, I guess), but the others would be alright. I have no problem interacting with some people, most people, even. It’s the dread that precedes the interaction that’s the problem. However, there are some people I just can’t talk to without stumbling over my words and all that, like my boss at the salon. It was terrible. I’m hoping that if the medication works, I’ll be more willing to get out of my house and socialize.</p>
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<p>You’re not telling me anything I don’t know. Like I said, I went to regular school for the great majority of my life. I woke up early, stuck to my schedule, and succeeded in the process. I’m perfectly capable of complying to the system, I just don’t like to. When I have to comply, like in college, I will. This is the disposition of just about anyone who dislikes hard-set schedules. Check out the “perceiving” characteristic from Carl Jung’s theories.</p>
<p>I can network without getting an unnecessary job that I hate.</p>
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<p>Or when you don’t need money at all, you don’t get a job! Right? Right? No? You like to get jobs just because they’re fun? Oh, okay. Have fun with that.</p>
<p>They’re not refusing to homeschool me. They’re refusing to homeschool me if I don’t abide by their rules. I will abide by their rules if after trying to negotiate with them they don’t change their mind one bit, because I’m in their house and their word is law. It is indeed their prerogative entirely.</p>
<p>That rigid structure isn’t something I should have to deal with now because there’s no need for it. You’re just like everyone else. Your thinking operates under the fallacy that you can’t mold the world to your will. In some ways, you can. And I’m trying to exercise those ways.</p>
<p>Life doesn’t have to suck, folks. Change things around so that it doesn’t suck.</p>
<p>These people didn’t feel like getting jobs, so they didn’t. They had to make some serious sacrifices along the way, but to them, they were worth it. I bet they’re happier than most wage slaves with higher standards of living, too.</p>
<p>[confessions</a> of a bottom feeder, secrets of frugal living, the frugal life style, frugal lifestyle](<a href=“http://home.earthlink.net/~astrology/confessi.html]confessions”>http://home.earthlink.net/~astrology/confessi.html)</p>
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<p>I didn’t call him a wage slave to be disrespectful, but merely to illustrate what I don’t want to become.</p>
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<p>Everything does indeed happen during the day. And when I have things to be doing during the day, I’ll adjust my sleep schedule accordingly. Otherwise, I’ll keep my leisurely 4-2 schedule. Why not?</p>
<p>My social anxiety doesn’t inhibit me from talking to people I need to talk to, but it is a significant problem. That’s why I’m taking medication and making an effort to get out of the house more.</p>
<p>The car goes hand in hand with the job, folks. How am I going to transport myself to my new job? The problem is that buying a car to transport myself to a job I don’t need would just about wipe out my life savings and burden me with car upkeep costs that I don’t need right now.</p>
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<p>Attend community college for a year or two and then transfer to a UC school.</p>
<p>Well, I’m 17 now, 18 in a week, so I guess I’d be moving out around 20-21 and graduating college 22-23.</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>Careers having to do with computers interest me.</p>
<p>My daily schedule over the summer was based around my online summer classes. They took up most of my day. Since the classes have ended and I have just about zero obligations, I’ve been lounging around the house all day with the occasional friend hangout or youth group attendance. To help me out of this rut, I’ve been considering volunteering, taking up some sort of hobby, or playing a sport.</p>
<p>Good lord, this response took me about two hours!</p>
<p>It was fun, though. Very fun. I love using my brain.</p>
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<p>Whatever. I feel bad for your future children. </p>
<p>And I truly hope they grow up to have their own brains. And then I’m going to feel sorry for you when they tell you that they don’t want you in their lives because you’re so closed-minded. </p>
<p>/my existence in this thread.</p>
<p>hey, guys, let’s be nice…</p>
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<p>What’s ridiculous is the notion that you will go to college and get a lucrative degree. It’s statistically not going to happen. And therefore you will never be able to live off passive income.</p>
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<p>And therefore have no income, and no responsibilities. They are intrinsically linked.</p>
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<p>You don’t need the money because your parents permit your current lifestyle. Once they kick you out, it will be a necessary responsibility.</p>
<p>I also disagree with your definitions – I would certainly include a job in the category of necessary responsibility unless one has already produced enough money BY HIMSELF in order to live. Clearly, you have not.</p>
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<p>And there’s no “need” for any schedule. It’s something you should have to deal with because it is something your parents said you should do. And you should obey your parents. Read the Bible; it’s all in there.</p>
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<p>Yeah, let me know how that works out. Then an 100k engineering job, right?</p>
<p>^^^Romani, that was really uncalled for. I know of many very religious parents [my grandparents, for example] who truly believe that they would be hurting their children by not exposing them to religion. Guess what? Most people don’t mindlessly follow their parents’ religion, not these days anyway. I don’t believe Baelor is closed-minded, just strong in his/her convictions.</p>
<p>By the way OP, you make life look incredibly easy. Some people have real issues, js :)</p>
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<p>Thanks, when they’re born, I’ll let them know.</p>
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<p>Of course they’ll have their own brains. I have mine, yet my parents and I agree on most issues. And I’m not closed-minded at all. I understand and listen to different perspectives all the time. One is forced to when no one else (almost) shares the same beliefs.</p>
<p>It’s a very simple point that your prejudice/hidebound personality are preventing you from seeing. Say my child murders someone. I consider this morally wrong. You are suggesting that I support this child in his actions because that’s what a parent does. I would support my child, but I would not in any way condone his actions or let him think they are acceptable.</p>
<p>In the same way, my religious beliefs entail moral safety (and physical in some cases). For my child not to have my religious views would be similar in idea to his murdering someone – they are both morally wrong. Thoughts become actions, if you will. Now, I don’t care what his favorite color is, whether he supports a Democratic or Republican candidate, but I care about the eternal well-being of my child. Eternal well-being includes believing in my religion, just as well-being on Earth would require, oh, I don’t know, not committing genocide or raping everyone every chance I get.</p>
<p>Well, now we have the missing piece of the puzzle. You are going to be 18 in a week. This is why your parents have suddenly dealt out the rules. You have to grow up now, there’s no other option. Perhaps they’re getting afraid that you’re going to sit in their home forever. I wouldn’t say it’s an unreasonable fear.</p>
<p>I’m sad you skipped me, I wanted to debate lol. But in all honesty, I don’t think any of you people that are still talking sense and reality should bother anymore. If you haven’t noticed, james has a pattern of making excuses and justifying all of his actions. I don’t believe you’ve considered once in this thread, james, that anything you are doing is unreasonable or some wrong of your own.</p>
<p>Give it up, people. He is going to keep making excuses and acting superior. (Wage slave, really?) He will keep on with this fantasy spiel, (and why shouldn’t he, he has no idea of what the world really is, what the future may or may not actually hold), until it finally runs out.</p>
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<p>You are 17 years old, and have come to terms with the universe. Not too shabby. You also can shoulder as much responsibility as ‘the best of us?’ Even though you have no idea what ‘the best of us’ have in terms of responsibility? Nice. Let me guess, you are also very modest, right?</p>
<p>You see, they want you out and moving for at least 6 hours a day, 5 days a week. They also probably don’t want to pay for your every need anymore.</p>
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<p>“6 year old child: mom I’m an atheist
parent: Ok, you don’t have to come to church with us”</p>
<p>that is way to liberal for me…</p>
<p>^^Great post baelor!</p>
<p>Making excuses? What are you talking about? You guys are basically saying “He needs to own up to the real world”</p>
<p>and he’s pretty much saying “I will when I need to”</p>
<p>By the way…</p>
<p>He has held a steady job for 11 months: Yes
He has self studied at least three APs: Yes
He has pretty good grades: yes
He will change some of his habits: yes</p>
<p>I don’t know what else you guys (or maybe just nattilee) are trying to attack.</p>
<p>What kind of fantasy is he living in?</p>
<p>Ralec, what’s so bad about being an atheist anyway? If you’re super religious and believe that being an atheist will mean you’re going to hell, okay I’ll buy this argument. I can see how you want the best for your child.</p>
<p>Otherwise, “Mommy, I’m an atheist”</p>
<p>“Okay, as long as you’re not hurting anybody and you’re still a good person”</p>
<p>Is good enough for me.</p>
<p>On the other hand,</p>
<p>“Mommy, I’m a satanist”</p>
<p>■■■■ *** NUUUUU!!! -slap slap slap-</p>
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<p>…excuse me? Who are you to tell me whether or not I’m going to college and getting a lucrative degree?</p>
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<p>See, the joy of having parents that can afford to pay for my necessities is that I don’t need a job to pay for said necessities. I do, however, need a job to pay for non-necessities, and I saved up enough money from my previous job to be able to pay for whatever non-necessities I wish.</p>
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<p>I have read the Bible. I’ve been in the Christian church since I was born. I memorized the order of the books. I went to Christian private schools up until eighth grade. Church every Sunday, and often times on Wednesday. I’ve been to youth groups, camps, you name it. All for naught, because now I’m an atheist. The Bible contains some good, but most of it is poison. Don’t turn this into a religious debate.</p>
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<p>I sure will let you know. I’ll fax you the damn degree if you like. How dare you question my drive and ability to receive a college degree? You disgust me.</p>
<p>I think you’re the most bitter of them all, Baelor.</p>
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<p>The kind where he can quit doing anything he may not like a little bit with no consequences whatsoever.</p>
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<p>Yeah, that’s all great and everything. And perhaps he has already grown up enough in your opinion. But you’re not his parent. And his parents obviously have a different opinion, i.e. why they want him to get a job, change his sleeping pattern, etc.</p>
<p>And he is basically 18 years old… I’m pretty sure he ‘needs to own up to the real world’ now. After next week, it could be the real world at any time his parents choose.</p>
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<p>At least at this point, he can, and I don’t see anything wrong with why he chooses to do so.</p>
<p>Plus, I’m sure the OP knows that is not how it works in the real world.</p>
<p>^^^^ You disgust me for your fantastical living.</p>
<p>^^ I concur.</p>
<p>^ His posts have not shown that.</p>
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<p>You are indeed excused. I’m not telling you anything. I’m saying, statistically, you are grasping for that which is ever so slippery. And you are clearly nothing even closely resembling a wunderkind, so give it up and get real – your parents will take care of that, clearly.</p>
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<p>I’m not – you clearly are. I was simply pointing out an oft-quoted source that describes obedience to one’s parents.</p>
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<p>Oh no! I’m sure you’ll hunt me down as I cruise by you in my Phantom on the way to my Wall Street firm and see you pontificating on the street in rags. At least I’m on the way to a successful life. You’re not even close.</p>
<p>LOL.</p>
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<p>Responsibility…duh.</p>
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<p>Have you READ any of his posts?</p>
<p>I thought that the OP was like 15 or something so that he should have some leeway…but holy **** he’s turning 18 wth…</p>