<p>^ Yeah, but not when they’re doormat-status.</p>
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Yeah, and they tend to stay in the friendship zone.</p>
<p>@Wartsandall
Personally, I find nice guys endearing and relatable; this is what I deem attraction to be. I can’t really speak for the rest of the female population though…</p>
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<p>Which is where the source of confusion comes from. They want both nice guys AND confident guys, something that’s often mutually exclusive. And when forced to choose, I’d wager most girls take the latter, so it appears they prefer ******s.</p>
<p>Then there’s the mutual willingness to express feelings and make oneself vulnerable to ridicule (or whatever)…</p>
<p>I’ve been nice to a female and I assure you, I’m not a doormat. I really did try to understand her, get to know her and all…
I’m fairly confident. She’s very beautiful, but I still looked into her eyes and smiled, had a good conversation and all…
but she ended up not liking me like that.</p>
<p>She crushed on a dude who is a complete loser, goes to a state school and gets drunk, and treats her like crud.</p>
<p>Explain.</p>
<p>Actually, I asked her friends, and they said she was attracted to Filipino dudes…not Indians like me.
I refuse to believe race is a big deal in female attractions…that’s just sad.</p>
<p>Different girls possess alternative preferences.</p>
<p>That’s unfortunate though.</p>
<p>^^I think that it depends on the extent of the confidence. Personally though, I find nice guys to be more preferable.</p>
<p>“She’s very beautiful”
This could well be the problem.</p>
<p>^ Hormones. I honestly don’t think she’s looking for a healthy relationship. I think she just relishes the fact that she’s dating a guy she knows she shouldn’t be dating. Her loss.</p>
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<p>Well…I don’t want to be shallow, but I do want to be sexually attracted to a girl + the emotional attraction.
I kinda have high standards I guess, but I can? I’m not bad looking myself so =/</p>
<p>I’m still hurt by her rejection. I really thought she was a great sweet girl (although she isn’t exactly too bright…) but it didn’t matter. I thought we had a good connection…I’ve haven’t recovered yet and hence I’m on a quest to be a bad boy!!</p>
<p>Girls who want the bad boys aren’t interested in a serious relationship, they want a fling. Usually this is during the last year of high school/first year of college. </p>
<p>Mature, GOOD girlfriends want a guy who isn’t a *******bag. She wants a guy who will treat her right. I am not talking about a doormat. There need to be some things that you are absolutely firm on. But for the most part, nice, mature, pretty, and smart girls want nice, intelligent, and attractive boys.</p>
<p>And I’m sorry. But if you are a nice guy at heart, I highly doubt you can become a bad boy.</p>
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<p>Sorry, I just couldn’t help but notice this. What’s wrong with that?</p>
<p>^^ also, you don’t seem to know this guy very well, so how would you know how he really treats her? The way guys treat their girls in public is often much different than how they treat them in private.</p>
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<p>Why would you go out with a guy that treats you like that in public, but acts differently when no one else is around? o.O</p>
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<p>Not saying that I do, but it is a frequent occurrence.</p>
<p>"^ Not all girls like jerks though. They may be fun to admire on a superficial basis, but when it comes to a real relationship, a lot of girls want someone who will treat them right.</p>
<p>I’m weird in the sense that I also don’t understand why girls go for jerks even though I am a girl myself. I’d never date a guy who I knew was a dick."</p>
<p>ugh, exactly! my friend is a self-proclaimed ‘jerk-addict’…it’s horrible. BUT that’s only on a very shallow level, you see. jerks are often hot [confidence-bordering-cockiness, & all], & are therefore good for admiring from afar. but she ended up crushing on one of our guy friends, who is a total sweetheart :]</p>
<p>“Hmm could is POSSIBLY be because most nice guys are somewhat mature and might not wanna have sex right away when the girl does?”</p>
<p>no 0_o</p>
<p>“Which is where the source of confusion comes from. They want both nice guys AND confident guys, something that’s often mutually exclusive.”</p>
<p>*NOT mutually exclusive.</p>
<p>“I refuse to believe race is a big deal in female attractions.”</p>
<p>sorry, but it may well be that she was honest with you about her preferences :/</p>
<p>naxhknhicnuhcnaui, haven’t you guys ever heard of the saying:~girls date the bad boy, but marry the nice guy.~</p>
<p>I don’t think inexperience would be a problem at all unless the girl is looking for a guy who is a stud in bed. This is shallow, but I think attraction and looks play a big role in who someone wants. don’t get me wrong, i think personality is important too but the nicest personality doesn’t always land the girl. </p>
<p>In middle school, my best friend was this sweet guy who always held the door open for me, carried my books if I had too many, and would probably would have given me a kidney if I asked immediately. In high school he was the same nice guy but I never felt attracted to him so our friendship stayed the same. After he transferred to a different high school, he became sooooo much cuter but he also became a huge jerk who bragged about his last escapade that landed him in the principal’s office. The moral: nice girls want nice guys that they are attracted to. Usually you see the nice guy as the best friend but not the boy friend, and its probably due to his looks. Shallow but its true</p>
<p>…what does him changing his personality have anything to do with you not being attracted to him?</p>
<p>it just means that the guy can’t only be nice or attractive. Usually girls are attracted to both, so if my guy friend had the same personality but had grown a foot taller, something might have happened</p>
<p>I can see a pattern here:</p>
<p>Superficial matters in high school. </p>
<p>However, I do not think it is as big of a deal post high school.</p>
<p>Superficial attraction = a superficial relationship.</p>
<p>Most of the girls I have met have fallen for the ******* who exudes self-confidence rather than the nice guy that has confidence but downplays it to avoid seeming like the aforementioned egotistical *******.</p>
<p>Some girls see through this, and go for the nice guy, but most girls don’t.</p>
<p>Lol did john really compare how attraction work with twilight zone? ■■■■■■■■.</p>
<p>I will explain how this so Called Attraction works, or something called “The Game.”</p>
<p>Nice guys do not finish last, whoever said that is an idiot. HAHA. There is a big difference between a genuinely nice guy and a approval seeking nice guy. Genuinely nice guys are gentle, kind, friendly, and tries to understand the women in order for her to be receptive to him. They also possess the characteristics of an Alphaman(Leadership, handling situation calmly, dont express anger so sudden, do not act upon impulse, good problem solving skills in business and in personal life) which attracts high percentage of women in this country. You do not have to be a rough, bad boy to get the girl…Approval seeking nice guys will do anything to please others. When it comes to girls, approval seeking guys are too nice and makes themselves too available for them. Buying them *<strong><em>load of gifts, turn of their true desire so the grl thinks the guy is harmless and not perverted, always have the women lead(co-dependency), always seeking for approvals from others, it is an insecurity that turns grls off. HOwever, with stuck up girls it is different. Ive done my experiments and Ive had success. Usually a grl in a scale of 10 is stuck up big time and thinks she can get any guy she wants. You can be mean to her indirectly. Give her a neg hit to take her *</em></strong>*shield down and this is just a short term game to get her to be receptive to you, or else dont even bother. </p>
<p>All guys gotta do is be themselves. Approval seeking nice is not being yourself, it is the lowest status male ever. They are shy and have no self confidence so they need constant approvals and reassurance. They come of manipulative, needy, and normally they get clingy when they get rejected. I study phsycology, philosophy, and attraction. I know what Im talking about. Every guys and gal’s are different. Im not saying approval seekers get no where, they just finish last. They realize at the end what they are doing wrong. And usually these co-dependent guys end up with control freak women. I have enough facts to support that conclusion. Control freak women r usually Alpha-Females. They take charge, control of the situation, and usually connect better with nice guys. Its the compatability. Nice grls end up with Alphamales, except most alphamales are not dominent over females, only over themselves and in the business world. Which is why many many grls end up with them. To the nice guys, dont worry. You live and learn…Just be yourself, if you are interested in a women, show your ineterest! not by complimenting their beauty! Get to know them, what they are about. Have an interesting convo…Thats all it takes…Guys dont have success with every women when they know how the game works, its the chemistry and the connection between the 2 individual that brings them together.</p>
<p>A good way to approach a grl and have her be receptive to you you see her at a bar/club and she is taking pics of her grls…you go upto her and say hey let me take pic of you all together. That girl will see that you were confident to go up to her and also notice how you were genuinely nice to offer to take pics of her and her friends together…Shell deff be receptive to you if you take the convo further. Good luck tot he approval seeking nice guys!</p>