<p>So I have just read a bunch of threads about nice guys, and many males seem to be under the impression that nice guys don't get girls. The thing is that they are mixing up ACTUALLY nice guys with faux nice guys.</p>
<p>actually nice guy: acts nice because they are (whether or not they like the girl) and sincerely respects them, isn't sexist</p>
<p>faux nice guy: acts nicely in hopes of "getting the girl," does not respect the girl for anything other than superficial qualities</p>
<p>"bad boy": may or may not respect the girl for anything other than superficial qualities, may or may not be sexist, but is honest about it</p>
<p>An actually-nice-guy views a girl they like not as "a girl" but as a female human being who they are romantically/sexually attracted to.</p>
<p>A faux-nice-guy views a girl they like as a different type of person whose entire sex exists for the purpose of getting together with a guy.</p>
<p>Now some guys may claim that by these definitions no actually-nice-guys exist, but they do. Have you ever heard the saying "a thief thinks everyone steals" ? Yeah. So please don't think that girls don't want to be respected, they want to be dominated, or whatever (although that must be the case for some girls, but also for some boys, so what does it matter?) it's just that the nice guys aren't actually nice. Sure, actually-nice-guys can get rejected, just like everyone else. But anyone looking for a genuine relationship and not just a date/boyfriend will not prefer "bad boys" over guys that are ACTUALLY nice.</p>
<p>You can tell a guy is a faux nice guy if you see/hear him complaining about how all girls like like bad boys and not nice guys (and he claims to be a nice guy). </p>
<p>I think that it’s a common fallacy to assume that because an individual believes that they nice, their sympathetic characteristics were the direct cause of their rejection.</p>
<p>^I can do the opposite. I can drop a football standing within one foot of someone. Let’s just say that my team wasn’t too content with that.</p>
<p>^^Ah, Warts, you don’t understand. I can drop a football from <1ft of someone, but I can catch the football from 2^10 yds away, if I know which direction it’s coming from </p>
<p>it’s not that nice guys don’t get girls it’s the nice guys on this site are delusional and think their incredible social awkwardness and inability to talk to girls can be made up by being “nice”.</p>
<p>Well, the boy I’ve been dating for the past year and two months is incredibly nice–I don’t think I’ve ever met a nicer guy. He’s not only nice because I’m his girl, he’s nice to everyone. But he’s one of VERY FEW guys I know like this. So basically, it’s very rare to find a nice guy that doesn’t get rejected, but they do exist. I don’t think you can generalize it and say that “Every single nice guy out there either doesn’t exist or gets rejected.”</p>