<p>@VANDEMORY1342: At least 2 of the schools you denied from (mainly Vandy and Tech) are very, very, very stats. oriented (Tech makes sense because its first year courses are very tough grading and things like chem and bio are pure multiple choice, so MC test taking may correlate better there than other schools. Also, math SAT is important for physics and math intros which are very difficult at Tech and you didn’t have a math/science AP or SAT2 scores already done. That’s ideal for Tech). As in more so than us, Vandy, or Chapel Hill). The admitted students at each have very high stats (median ACT at Vandy is like 34). Tech enrolls a bit lower than it admits (on both ends), and Vandy’s goes down a bit on the 25% end and a little on the 75% end. They are “holistic” but overall stats. whoring it up. Emory is playing a mixture of the fit, diversity, and yield protection game. Vandy has higher yield than many other selective schools (I think it’s in the 40% range, so that’s higher than Duke who wants the students going to HYPS so badly and also higher than the slew of schools with 29-35% yield), so can get away with being choosy for the sake of being choosy, even if the courses aren’t that tough.<br>
Chapel Hill, probably because you were out of state.</p>
<p>Hey, at least you got in Emory, Oxford, and UGA. </p>
<p>Yes, lots of people with lower than expected stats were admitted (in-state), but they are certainly more stats. sensitive than Emory. They admit quite a bit higher than Emory (upwards to an 80-100 point difference) on average, but then yield identical caliber students. Did your friend have any science math/science APs under his belt already that made them more appealing (not to say speculation helps. Also, I think Tech takes desired major into account)? In reality, I think it’s just better to be pre-med at either UGA or the Emory campus (Oxford or main) than it is at Tech. Not necessarily because Tech is hard, but more so because the natural science cirriculum at both is probably actually a bit better (it certainly is at both Emory campuses, I don’t know about UGA). They are much better at engineering, physical, and computational sciences when it comes to undergraduate science education. Chemistry, neuroscience, and biology seem much better at Emory (again, doesn’t matter which campus) based on what I’ve seen. I don’t think you’ll be missing them unless you wanted to do BME (which, unless you’re brilliant, isn’t recommended for pre-med. Med. schools care more about grades and superficial rigor more so than actual preparation and training. Better to take decent classes with a reasonable level of rigor, do well, and and kill the MCAT than to challenge oneself to that extent and lower the GPA significantly…as med. schools seem to only care about your problem solving and thinking skills in the context of the MCAT or EC activities and lesser so course work). </p>
<p>Objective:
[<em>] SAT I (breakdown):2110(Superscore): 710CR, 670 M, 730 W
[</em>] ACT: didn’t take
[<em>] SAT II: 720 Biology M, 690 US History, 690 Math 1
[</em>] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): like A-/A with some B+'s
[<em>] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): no rank
[</em>] AP (place score in parenthesis):4 English Language, 5 US History
[<em>] Senior Year Course Load: AP Gov, AP Calc AB, AP Latin, AP Chem
[</em>] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): history award, academic honor society at school</p>
<p>[li] Where else were you accepted/deferred/rejected: Accepted: NYU CAS, Cornell CAS, Vassar, Barnard</p>[/li]
<p>) Rejected: Brown, Amherst, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, Bowdoin</p>
<p>[/list]General Comments: Emory’s cool and the weather is nice but Idk if my parents are gonna let me go to Georgia…</p>
<p>@RhythmMeleon: Your parents won’t let you go to Atlanta, but would have let you go to Nashville or Baltimore? Interesting…Hopefully you can enjoy those other beautiful, cold places. </p>
<p>[ color=green][ b]Decision: Accepted by (Emory College)**[/color]</p>
<p>[ b]Objective:**
[ *] SAT I (breakdown): Didn’t take
[ *] ACT: 33
[ *] SAT II: 700 Math II, 730 Chemistry
[ *] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.98
[ *] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): School doesn’t rank
[ *] AP (place score in parenthesis): 5 Chemistry, 4 Spanish Language, 3 English Lang.and Comp. (lol)
[ *] IB (place score in parenthesis):
[ ] Senior Year Course Load: AP Microeconomics, AP Am. Government, AP Physics B, AP Calculus AB, AP English Literature
[ ] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): A few local/school rewards Idk…
[ /list][ b]Subjective:
[ *] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Cross Country 9-12, Track 9-11, Advanced Jazz Band (Lead alto saxophonist and section leader), Science National Honors Society, Tri M Music Honors Society
[ *] Job/Work Experience:
[ *] Volunteer/Community service: Crisis Prevention Hotline, Tri M (several hundred hours)
[ *] Summer Activities: Summer Discovery at UPenn (Chemistry program)
[ *] Essays: Great, Spent a long time on each. They were very specific to Emory
[ *] Teacher Recommendation: Awesome one from my chem teacher and probably a good one from my calculus teacher
[ *] Counselor Rec: Decent, Big school so I don’t really see my counselor often
[ ] Additional Rec:
[ ] Interview:
[ /list][ b]Other</p>
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<li><p>[ *] State (if domestic applicant): California
[ *] Country (if international applicant):
[ *] School Type: Public
[ *] Ethnicity: White
[ *] Gender: Male
[ ]Income Bracket:
[ ] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.):
[ /list][ b]Reflection</p></li>
<li><p>[ *] Strengths:
[ *] Weaknesses:
[ *] Why you think you were accepted/deferred/rejected: I showed a LOT of interest lol
[ *] Where else were you accepted/deferred/rejected:
[ /list][ b]General Comments:**</p></li>
</ul>
<p>Decision: Accepted to the College of Arts and Sciences</p>
<p>Objective:
[<em>] SAT I: 2250
[</em>] ACT: didn’t take
[<em>] SAT II: 750 Chemistry, 720 Biology M, 800 Math 2
[</em>] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.61
[<em>] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): n/a
[</em>] AP (place score in parenthesis): 3 Biology, 5 Psychology
[<em>] Senior Year Course Load: AP English, Government, AP Art, AP Calculus AB, CP Physics, French 4
[</em>] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): ACSEF Third Place, National merit commendation, North Coast Institute of Food Technologists award.</p>
<p>[/list]Subjective:
[<em>] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Varsity Water Polo 9-12 (Captain, North Coast Sectionals, Junior Olympics), National Honor Society, Writer’s Block editing club, French Club
[</em>] Job/Work Experience: Administrator for a tutoring company, Parkinson’s Institute lab internship (three years of research and a published abstract)
[<em>] Volunteer/Community service: Stanford Blood Center, Annual local carnival volunteer, tutored disabled children, Light Up the Way charity marathon
[</em>] Essays: Some of the best of all my college essays, I think
[<em>] Teacher Recommendation: One was good, my teacher liked me. The other was probably stellar; I had the teacher for two years and he was a good mentor to me throughout high school.
[</em>] Counselor Rec: New to our school this year. I talked to her a couple of times and she seemed fond of me from the get-go.</p>
<p>[/list]Other
[<em>] State (if domestic applicant): California
[</em>] School Type: Public
[<em>] Ethnicity: Indian
[</em>] Gender: Female
[<em>]Income Bracket: >$100,000
[</em>] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): nope
[/list][ b]Reflection**</p>
<ul>
<li>[<em>] Strengths: Extracurriculars, Essays, Standardized tests
[</em>] Weaknesses: GPA
[<em>] Why you think you were accepted/deferred/rejected: No clue, incredibly grateful though.
[</em>] Where else were you accepted/deferred/rejected: Accepted: Boston University $ (Kilachand Honors College), Case Western $
General Comments: </li>
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<p>@fremontkid: What’s your academic interests? And don’t just say something like pre-med (or pre-anything…I mean, state an actual discipline. Any discipline can lead to be integrated with pre-something. Exception is if you want engineering) or something like that. </p>
<p>@megan702: You will find no rhyme or reason. If Emory was super duper stats. intensive (admits extremely high and enrolls lower), you could, but it isn’t the case. Don’t bother trying to figure it out by looking at stats. The ones for acceptances, denials, and waitlists will be all over the place for Emory and we can’t see any essays or extra material they submitted with the application. I’ve read essays of folks on this board before (the optional supplemental essays for Emory) and some were very good in a unique way that the admissions officers may love (it shows creativity or some appreciation for writing/liberal arts that goes beyond the normal essay. Like the “design your course” thing is really a time to display some intellectual prowess and show your personality) even if the student doesn’t have a 2100-2150 SAT or a 32-33 on the ACT. And then you will have people who primarily got in because of very high stats (though even then, there probably needs to be a rec. letter or solid essay to ensure an acceptance as opposed to a waitlist. Something has to show that you’ll fit). If you weren’t much higher than the 75%, then you’re at risk for not getting a straight up “admit” decision. There is lots of what appears to be randomness in the interquartile range.</p>
<p>@bernie12 True, there probably would be a lot of randomness. I would say I’m in the 40th percentile for CR and 75th for Math so that I’m somewhere in the middle. Two people were accepted from my high school with slightly higher SAT scores than me, and then I know of like 5 or 6 of us who were waitlisted. Should I bother trying to get off the waitlist? I was admitted to CMU Tepper, but I’m not sure if that school is the right fit for me.</p>
<p>@megan702: If you may want to come to Emory, take a position on the waitlist. If you think you fit at Emory better, it may end up working out for the best if you get off. If you can risk the money (the money you’ll send to CMU to reserve your spot I guess and then the money you may have to pay if you pull out). </p>
<p>The people at your school probably won’t be going right? If not, they may be the first sign that the waitlist will be pulled from (the thing working against you is that I think Emory may be trying to yield a slightly smaller class this year, and I mean maybe by like 30-50 students which does make a difference).</p>
<p>ACT: 32 (34M, 33E)
720 Bio 750 Math II
GPA: 3.89 UW
no ranking
Junior/Sr Year course load - all college honors because I live on campus at an early college high school (have 60+ college hours)
Leadership, ECs, Research, paid lab assistant, Questbridge
White male, 80K
Acceptances: NONE (Duke, Vandy, USC, Tufts, NWestern, UChicago, UPenn, Ponoma, CMC - free apps b/c of QB)
Accepted: UT-McCombs, A&M BHP, SMU Cox BBA Scholars (lots of scholarship money), UT-D with full ride
Waitlisted: NYU, Emory</p>
<p>Thoughts: going to early college meant all STEM classes, only two years foreign language, no varsity sports, no UIL, no ranking; smartest kids (perfect stats) at my high school/college have had same outcome.</p>
<p>Accepted to Emory with a surprisingly good FA package! Never thought there was a chance in the world I would be able to afford Emory, but now it’s a real possibility.</p>
<p>@shoeboemom I don’t think I ever used the NPC for Emory, but the grant they gave me brings the cost of attendance to below my EFC according to the FAFSA.</p>
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