<p>haha, many as in 18!</p>
<p>You know, 18 sounds awfully low. On the Yale website, it explicitly says 25-35 applicants are admitted out of 700-800 applicants. If 800 applied, then the number of admits should be closer to 25 or 35. What do you guys think?</p>
<p>Are we sure that it’s 18? Did someone confirm or did some random dude just post 18?..</p>
<p>Yes I remeber those numbers… let´s just wait 2 more days</p>
<p>Congrats ashcricket. How nice of you to create a cc account to announce your acceptance.</p>
<p>i dont think it matters that much between accepting 18 or 25 kids. i highly doubt there is a discernible difference among the top 50 applicants. you never know what they want. perfect applicants can be denied.</p>
<p>Hey Augustus</p>
<p>How’s Brown going for you? Wish you the best and thanks for your insightful posts.</p>
<p>Firstly, I don’t think we can be too critical of ashcricket–he/she did make the account in July 2008.</p>
<p>Now, the amount of positive energy within this thread is truly illuminating but I don’t think it’s safe mentally or statistically to rely on sheer optimism to pull ourselves through this decision. Just assuming 18 out of 800 will be admitted, it is completely possible that all those emails already got sent out and nobody on CC received them. Only about one in forty five applicants is going to be admitted. I haven’t even taken a class in college that is the intended size of Yale’s admitted transfer pool. </p>
<p>While even I am still optimistic about the decision I’ll get back, I knew from the start how impractical it would be to be admitted even if my stats were competitive enough. I went through my transfer process under the complete assumption I would be returning to my current school since I applied to no safeties, which I was OK with. By alleviating myself of absurdly high expectations, I decreased the level of disappointment I would feel once all was said and done. I can’t tell you how happy I was when I got into two of the schools I had applied to. Now I have two more, Yale being one of them, but my mentality hasn’t changed one bit.</p>
<p>The sheer number being selected out of this applicant pool means that, more than in any other situation, people will not be admitted who completely deserve to at Yale. I am OK being rejected by Yale–not because I have two other options (and hopefully one more by the end of this month), but because I never expected to get in. I wanted to, but I knew what a challenge it would be and accepted statistical reality. There’s always a chance so we all have the opportunity to be admitted, which is why I applied, but we can’t rely on this chance alone.</p>
<p>So many thousands of people have been rejected from Yale and have gone on to be very very happy and lead incredible lives. I think it’s safe to say none of us need Yale as much as we believe we do. I wish all of you guys the best of luck as you make your plans for the rest of college. Again, if you’re rejected don’t stress about it too much because you’ll have 782 other kids to relate to.</p>
<p>^^^Well put, I agree with your optimistic AND pragmatic approach.</p>
<p>Thanks, entomom! :)</p>
<p>I agree. A lot of people say that admissions is a crapshoot and whatever else they call it, but in my opinion, admissions is a very small and select group(s) of people who know what they’re doing. They know more than anyone else what kind of student belongs at Yale and what kind of student can succeed there. They’ve seen students come and go, and we can’t be the ones to judge if we’re really the best fit because I honestly think that we don’t have that much experience and or knowledge. That being said, I’m sure many first year applicants and transfers that are rejected are ones that are capable of doing well and do fall into the pool of students who admissions deem worthy of admission, but there’s always the issue of space and allotment on how many people they can accept. I’m not even applying as a transfer until next year, but it’s just something that I’m doing for my own-self and just to aspire to own goals and to see what happens. Other than that, the university that I’m currently attending is one that I’d be happy to be in for another couple of years mainly because I feel that you can never bank on anything or be certain that you will always transfer out. </p>
<p>That being said, good luck everyone!</p>
<p>As much as I want to agree with you that there is a select group of people that are Yale worthy or fit the Yale persona I have to say that up to a point that argument cant hold because there are so many brilliant applicants vying for such few spots that they can clearly just pick at random and still make good choices. The pool of applicants is usually ridiculously outstanding such that after a particular point it is just almost impossible to differentiate one applicant from the other one. I am not saying this to justify whatever my decision would be, I just say this because coming into this we all saw the numbers and we knew what we were in for. I have to say though that whatever the decisions turn out to be, people on this thread and forum in general have been fascinating and inspiring.</p>
<p>Hi annnthony</p>
<p>First of all, I think we all recognize the probability that everything ashcricket posted was true. However, the fact that admissions claimed that decisions come out on May 13–the same date they (acceptance emails) came out last year–logically compels us to see the possibility that maybe admissions hasn’t sent out all the acceptance emails, or hasn’t even sent any out at all. To automatically assume truth in everything ashcricket posted would make us all obtuse.</p>
<p>Secondly, applicants on this thread do recognize that there is a chance they might not get admitted. We would be mentally unstable people if we were completely ignorant of the reality of the Yale Transfer Admission process. This is not true. Everyone is aware of this, but they don’t anticipate rejection letters because doing so would make the whole process of applying pointless. The insinuation you’re unintentionally making is that anticipating admission rather than rejection is completely impractical and unrealistic. We are not perpetual messiahs of unrealistic aspirations, we are simply applicants who prefer to anticipate the positives of reality rather than the negatives, by embracing optimism. People on this thread simply recognize that Yale admitting any of us is realistic. Any one of us can get in. That is 100 percent realistic. Several other people, including myself, applied to other schools just in case. We all realize that the chances of getting into Yale are slim, but insofar as there is a chance of getting admitted, practical hope is present. Due to the fact that Yale actually reviews applications, anything is possible. There was a transfer student who was admitted about 2 years ago. Frrrph, according to what she posted, didn’t have the most competitive stats. How she got in is a mystery. People have gotten in on slim odds. Most of us would not be surprised if we didn’t get admitted, and the reciprocal is also true. However, for those who aren’t admitted, the feeling of disappointment is inevitable, in spite of whether you anticipated the worst or the best. You might as well do yourself a favor and hope for the best. This is my motto.</p>
<p>I do agree with you on one thing. Many people who have gotten rejected by Yale have gone to lead successful lives. We all recognize this fact. I don’t think anyone here strongly believes that YALE = SUCCESS. This is self-evident when chisjah recognized the fact that schools like MIT have better engineering programs than Yale. </p>
<p>Simply put, we are all optimistic about our decisions because we choose to see the best out of a situation, and not circumscribe ourselves by the worst possible outcome. It isn’t surprising if Yale doesn’t admit an applicant among us. He or she would be inevitably disappointed. It is surprising if Yale does admit an applicant among us. He or she would be happy. So why bother anticipating the worst, when there is a chance that the best is realistically possible? In short, we are all optimistic about our decisions because we are better off seeing the best out of a situation.</p>
<p>I think that with a school like Yale, the Admissions Committee is less concerned about who is qualified to be there or “has what it takes” and more interested in whose stories, experiences, and perspectives can contribute most to the campus. This isn’t to say that one person’s experiences are more valuable than another person’s, but that when faced with such a large pool of academically superb applicants the essays we write become crucial in convincing the readers. At the end of the day, they are still going to be stuck with far more incredible experiences than they have room on campus for. </p>
<p>I have absolutely no idea what plays into the final decision, but my advisor in high school was also the Director of Admissions and one of the things she shared with me was just how difficult it was for the committee to select the sixth grade class and ninth grade additions, and in that case they were admitting 30-50% of applicants. If somebody can have trouble picking one student out of two or three, imagine having to pick one out of forty or fifty. Tough cookie.</p>
<p>This would mean that the Admission Commitee would put less emphasis on the test scores and GPA’s, but more on the content and quality of the essays.</p>
<p>TA,</p>
<p>There may be some confusion in what you understood me for trying to say. I think I conveyed my optimistic side well in my original post but balanced it with practicality. It isn’t that I assume the worst in every situation, but in a situation where there is a 1:45 change of something happening in one’s favor, experience (or maybe just AP Stats) has shown me to basically seek higher ground. </p>
<p>I would not be here in the first place if I wasn’t optimistic. I am, in some ways, more optimistic than Candide, but I thankfully lack his na</p>
<p>I love when situations like this come up. This is one of the few times I wish I were studying political science, English or something like medieval history. Unfortunately I am not, so I probably can’t present my side of the argument rationally or shall we say in an extravagant manner that would gain me a favorable audience. See what Yale has turned you guys into. I am having so much fun reading the responses. I just wish there was atleast another cc member to clarify the issues ashcricket broughtup. We’ll see though. Tomorrow is another day.</p>
<p>Hi annnthomy</p>
<p>I completely agree with you that the probability of getting admitted is far less likely than the opposite. The point I’m trying to make is that any applicant is logically better off hoping for the best out of the situation</p>
<p>Imagine it this way.</p>
<ol>
<li>Yale admits an applicant.</li>
<li><p>Regardless of what the applicant was expecting, he/she is probably happy to get admitted.</p></li>
<li><p>Yale does not admit an applicant</p></li>
<li><p>Regardless of what he/she was expecting, he/she is probably disappointed.</p></li>
</ol>
<p>So if you understand the above premises, the non-fallacious conclusion you would make is that regardless of what an applicant is expecting, Yale’s decision would inevitably make the applicant feel disappointed or happy. I’m not arguing that the chances of these two things happening are equal. I’m arguing on the premise that these are the only logically possible outcomes. And insofar as happiness or disappointment, as a result of receiving one’s decision, is inevitable, you might as well hope for the best. </p>
<p>P/S: I like the way you articulate your points on this thread. </p>
<p>Sincerely,
TransferAccepted</p>
<p>For the sake of the thread I think we’ll leave the debate here. Good discussion. Thanks for the compliment. Good luck everyone over the next few days as we wait for official decisions from Yale!</p>
<p>You’re right.
Today is probably our last day before D-Day. I wish everyone the best of luck. Hopefully, more people will be admitted.</p>