<p>I got into W&M from out of state with a 1530(/1600) and a ~3.7-3.8 GPA, and they accepted me into their honors program, so a bit lower and you might still be ok. Didn't apply to UVA, so I can't help there.</p>
<p>UVA is harder to get into both in and out of state. I don't know so much about W&M, but it seems for instaters that UVA kids have a 4.0+ GPA (weighted) and SATs in the 1300s and 1400s. Tech is more like a 3.5-3.7 (again, weighted) GPA and 1100s and 1200s. This is more of a generalization than real statistics, though. I don't know much about out of state, except for UVA is ridiculously hard to get into, but I would assume that if you had scores on the high end of those numbers, you would have a good shot.</p>
<p>According to the College Board, first-year UVA students were 71% In-state and 29% Out-of-state. According to the UVA website, there were 15,102 first-year applications and 38% were admitted. </p>
<p>According to the College Board, first-year W&M students were 67% In-state and 33% Out-of-state. According to the W&M web site, there were 10,610 first-year applications and 3292 admitted, which is 31%. </p>
<p>So, UVA has marginally fewer out-of-state students, but accepts marginally more students. As usual, it appears to be a wash. Both schools would seem to be equally difficult to get into from out-of-state.</p>
<p>But to answer the question as to what the minimums are for out-of-state admission, it's really all a crapshoot. If they like you, they like you. The best advice I can give is that if you think you'll be happy there, throw your hat in the ring. If you're in the published GPA/SAT range (1280-1430 for W&M and 1280-1490 for UVA), you might as well give it a shot. Nobody ever gets into their dream school without applying.</p>
<p>According to the stats above, W&M accepts about 1,100 from out of state and UVa accepts around 1,700 (absolute numbers). Statistically, it is easier to get into UVa. Usually, the acceptance rate is lower and SAT scores higher for W&M relative to UVa and the HS class rank is about even between the two schools. </p>
<p>Incidentally, a current article on the W&M website concerning minority students implies that the 2005 incoming freshmen had an SAT average of 1390. Here's the article:</p>