Parents of rising seniors: Let the games begin

<p>Socalmomof 2
Your daughter might consider Univ of Redlands for another safety. Smaller and greener than UCR, the town has nice streets.</p>

<p>Calmom, yes, DS is definitely aiming for ED or EA, if only to (hopefully) have the whole apps thing out of the way early. I was ED at Wellesley (back in the dark ages :-)) -- and let me tell you, it was SOOOO nice to save the time, money, and four extra months of stress.</p>

<p>The odds for ED do look better, as well -- If DS has a <em>clear</em> first choice by September, it seems the way to go.</p>

<p>It all depends on whether he can zero in on #1 in time.</p>

<p>I thought I'd add our stats here for the record, and would welcome advice. You're creating an interesting and useful database. Also, I just posted my detailed concerns in the Columbia ED thread (and almost put this one there by accident.... so clueless)</p>

<p>Screen name: amatricia
Is your junior male or female: female
Home state: NY
Preferred geographic location for college: NYC
Any specific things looking for in a college (large, small, urban, etc.): at the moment, large urban only
Child's possible academic interests: combining theoretical physics, philosophy, and French. Math and computer programming as tools, not majors. No interest in engineering or applied math or physics. Continuing singing acapella as an EC.
Schools currently on child's list of possibilities: Columbia, early decision. Also UPenn, UChicago, NYU. Perhaps Harvard, having received Book Award.
Schools we've visited (whether or not child is still interested in going there): Just Columbia and Oxford (England) because of latter's philosophy/physics program. Walked by the Sorbonne. She's visited Williams and liked it but not interested in LACs. Familiar with NYU because uncle lives nearby. We'll visit UPenn this summer. </p>

<p>She'll need a lot of financial aid because we've saved nothing. Ironically, last year I finally made enough money to no longer be living hand to mouth for the first time since she was a baby; a year ago she would have easily qualified for the new free ride at Harvard for low income families. I'm single and dad's support is erratic. But last year the court caught up with him and I got a better-paying job, so we shot up to the cusp of eligibility for non-merit scholarships at most schools. The schools she's interested in (and that her college counselor is encouraging) don't offer merit aid (except, I think, for UChicago). And she's set at the moment on Columbia.</p>

<p>I've mentioned this before but if there is any question of whether the non-custodial parent will be contributing to college expenses, it is important to discuss with each school on your daughter's list NOW how they will view this and what steps you will need to take to prove that he will not be contributing. We've had several cases here on CC where kids ran into last minute problems with this when it came to negotiating financial aid offers, so I would check up front with each and every school and take whatever steps are necessary as soon as possible. Do not assume that just because a school's financial aid information doesn't mention this that it isn't going to be an issue: call or email the financial aid offices and double check how they will view this situation.</p>

<p>Screen name: do not have
Is your junior male or female: male
Home state: New York </p>

<p>Preferred geographic location for college: Any good school which offer needs base or merit base $$$$$</p>

<p>Any specific things looking for in a college (large, small, urban, etc.): Wants a kid who has been ranked nationally in academic and plays varsity football and other sports. </p>

<p>Child's possible academic interests: Economics, Math or History </p>

<p>Schools currently on child's list of possibilities: Harvard, Princeton, Columbia, Stanford, Chicago, Duke, WUSTL, Amherst, Williams, and SUNY Binghamton</p>

<p>Schools we've visited (whether or not child is still interested in going there): Duke, Williams, Amherst and SUNY. Coaches have contacted that we may get some help.</p>

<p>Other factors: Top 10% with a hardest course load, Top of the line Boards, Research and math awards. Debate and school newspaper.</p>

<p>Redstar, I will be watching your son's progress with particular interest. He sounds very much like my son (he's going into his sophomore year) and I will be curious to know how the combo of top grades/scores and football flies.</p>

<p>Has he looked at Emory?</p>

<p>Does Emory have a football team?</p>

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<p>amatricia - NY
Anoel - NY
Audiophile - Florida
Bookmom - Illinois
calmom - California</p>

<p>carolyn - California
Crabbylady - Alaska
csshsm - Louisiana
curmudgeon - Texas
dcmom3 - Maryland</p>

<p>echosensei - Michigan
eppsas - Alabama
fireflyscout - Texas
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Flounderingfree - Texas</p>

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hayden
holycow - Asia
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<p>lalady - California
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Marny - NY
mel5140 - NJ
mep'smom Tennessee</p>

<p>mezzomom - Michigan
Momnipotent -Ohio
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movinmom -Maine</p>

<p>musicmomic - Iowa
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ncsu1987 - Virginia
norcalcoastmom - California
nyc -NY</p>

<p>obesmom - NY
Paulchem - NY
pyewacket -Europe
sent! - DC
shojomo - California</p>

<p>smsmom - midwest
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socalmomof2 - California
SplashMom - Tennessee
taxguy - Maryland</p>

<p>theocmom - California
ThatMom - Georgia
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<p>2sonmama - Kansas
3boysnjmom - NJ
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doddsmom & doddsdad - Germany
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Eulenspiegel - Oregon
gandert - Indiana
heidi - south</p>

<p>Iggal - CA (1 of 2 twin boys)
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Justadog - 2 sons - CT
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Kissy - midwest
lanemom - Massachusetts
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<p>Mommab - TN
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<p>q's mom - NY
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redstar - NY
semamom - Mass
Shennie - WI</p>

<p>sluggbugg - CA
socalmomof2 - California
SouthJerseyChessMom - NJ
sweetkidsmom - CA
Wyogal - MD</p>

<p>Does Emory have a football team?>></p>

<p>LOL, you know, that's one I DON'T know. :)</p>

<p>Since someone mentioned ED a few posts back, I'm just curious how many of you expect that your kids will end up applying ED in the fall.
I secretly would love my daughter to apply ED to her first choice school, and she has admitted that that particular school is almost certainly where she would go if she had a choice among all of the schools on her list, BUT she said to me the other day "But if I apply ED, I won't get to know how I would have done at all of the other schools on my list!" Obviously, this has to be HER choice, but it sure would be nice to get it all over with (at least from my point of view). Anyone facing a similar thing?</p>

<p>I'm trying not to influence my daughter, but also would be happy if she applied ED to her first choice school. She seems to want to find out if she'd get any merit scholarships at other schools, but applying RD to her first choice might blow her chances (no merit aid offered there).</p>

<p>carolyn, no ED for us. We will be sweating it out with the rest of the lemmings. That is unless D decides to say "The heck with all this. I want to go to _______. It's rolling admission or a formula scholarship school (guaranteed scholarship at set GPA and SAT levels). We can pay for it without aid. I'm done." I think there is a 25 to 30% shot that she will decide just that. She loves her safeties, and proudly admits she might choose them over her reaches. And for that I am forever thankful. If you truly build your list from the bottom up, this CAN happen. Of course tommorrow she COULD decide to be a trapeze artist and hate both safeties, and I understand that , too. LOL.</p>

<p>I found this on some random site:
Emory has a curious history of resisting intercollegiate athletic competition. To this day, the school fields no football team, prompting T-shirts that humorously claim that the Emory football team is "still undefeated," having never competed against opponents. Instead, in 1897 Emory became a pioneer with intramural sports. Emory's "athletics for all" program soon rose to national prominence in the 1920s, prompting many other institutions to emulate it.</p>

<p>Socalmomof2: UCSD is getting better in non-biological sciences; a recent article listed them as having a good undergraduate micro-nanotechnology program</p>

<p>No ED here- for financial reasons, ED isn't realistic for us, and I think the approach we will take is using EA at whatever college offers it, mostly at safeties and/or matches. (For some reason, it seems that less selective schools are more likely to offer EA than ED -- I think it's because no one would want to be locked in to them, but EA gives them an opportunity to spend 2 or 3 extra months lobbying students to attend.) That should eliminate some anxiety, and will at the same time leave options open.</p>

<p>Good move, Calmom. All of the schools on my D's list also have EA, and, hopefully, she'll get everything together in time to do them all that way. But, realistically, knowing my D. I suspect there will be a few RD's thrown in simply due to procrastination and the wringing of hands she tends to do when stressed.</p>

<p>D won't be doing ED - she's got at least two colleges she LOVES and she's rather hoping one of them will make the decision for her. Sadly there are no EAs on her list. It's going to be an interesting year.</p>

<p>Well, my son procrastinated and did everything at the last minute -but things are more competitive now, so I'm going to make sure my daughter understand the value of the early apps. The link you included in your blog entry today at admissionsadvice.com was a big help - I bookmarked that page. I'll probably just make a chart of deadlines and treat the EA deadlines as REAL deadlines. I'm going to encourage my daughter to fill out a common app form over the summer as well as write 2 or 3 draft essays, so she has stuff ready to go. The main thing will be lining up teacher recs and making sure those are sent off in time. My daughter prides herself on being well-organized, so I can appeal to that side of her. </p>

<p>Another advantage of early apps to the safeties and match schools is that they are good preparation and practice. An essay can be revised and improved over time, interviewing skills can be honed. </p>

<p>However, I also am going to try to convince my daughter of the merits of sending in early apps everywhere, even for RD schools. The earlier the paperwork is submitted, the less likelihood of lost paperwork down the line (or the more time to find it) -- and it stands to reason that the ad com is going to start off looking at whichever application packages are complete the earliest. </p>

<p>Then there's the whole financial aid thing.. another place where its better to be an early bird. I'm planning on doing tax returns early, too, so that paperwork reaches the colleges well in advance of the financial aid deadlines. </p>

<p>There are also a few schools that have earlier deadlines for merit scholarship consideration - so that's another thing to be alert to.</p>

<p>firefly, has she visited both of them? If not, that could narrow it down...</p>

<p>My D was denied at her ED1 school-- and when faced with ED2 deadline, she had 2 schools that were tied for her next favorite. </p>

<p>In the end, she decided to just pick one--because she felt that at <em>either</em> school she'd "need" the ED2 as an advantage to get in; not picking would make the chance of getting in to either one slimmer.</p>

<p>She picked one, got in ED2, is elated.</p>

<p>Carolyn -- re you question on whether offspring will be applying early...</p>

<p>I sure hope so -- But none of the schools on his list have EA, just ED, so he'll have to narrow things down soon. </p>

<p>Can't remember who posted suggestions about getting essay and rough-draft apps together over the summer, as well as finishing RD apps by Thanksgiving -- but great advice! Makes the whole process sound almost sane :-).</p>

<p>Wild Child will be applying ED, but first he will have to wade through the recruiting process and try to figure out which coach can offer the best help with admissions. This could be an easy process for our family or very stressful- it is still too soon to tell. I seem to be the only one in the family with any real concern..... most of my questions to S are answered by "I don't know". i.e., "Are you interested in Williams or do you think it is too small?" Answer: "I don't know." "Is your heart set on DI sports?" Answer: "I don't know." So-the games begin!</p>