Rank: Penn, Brown, and Dartmouth (In Prestige and Undergraduate Education)

<p>They are peers. Nothing else lol. Going to one isn’t necessaily going to open more doors than attending one of the others. At this level of colleges, it’s what you do with your opportunities that matter.</p>

<p>It’s all a matter of preference.</p>

<p>But secretly, Penn pwns all :)</p>

<p>dartmouth=penn=brown. period.</p>

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Except for this past season: Penn > all other Ivies. :)</p>

<p>In terms of being an academically superior school, Penn > Dartmouth > Brown.
You can’t refute it. Unless you think an academic experience is getting high and standing up to the man, or wiping your butt with pine needles in some forest.</p>

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<p>Penn lost to Columbia?</p>

<p>^ Nope. 7-0 in the Ivy League (and Ivy League Champion).</p>

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<p>I really don’t understand what can possibly compel somebody to say rude things about schools they don’t attend. Dartmouth happens to have ranked FIRST in the USNWR “quality of undergraduate education” ranking, and Brown is not far behind. The fact that these schools are more focused on their undergraduates and hire professors based on their teaching ability rather than their research potential means that they lose out on a little prestige in exchange for creating a better undergraduate experience.</p>

<p>Dartmouth is very hardly more isolated than Cornell, Amherst, etc, and that isolation is part of the allure for many students. No more marijuana smoking goes on at Brown than any other school. On the other hand, Penn is known for it’s relentlessly preprofessional students, which, if you ask me, would detract from the academic environment there.</p>

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<p>Actually, one can. By choosing an appropriate set of metrics from all the ones available, one can build a case for ordering the three just about any way one likes. But it would be a pointless exercise without a solid basis for preferring one set of metrics over the other, which is a matter of personal judgment.</p>

<p>By professional school “feeder” success: Dartmouth>Brown>Penn
By 75th% SAT M+CR: Dartmouth>Brown>Penn
By mid-career median salary: Dartmouth>Penn>Brown
By Peace Corp volunteers: Dartmouth>Brown>>>>Penn
By admit rate: Dartmouth~=Brown>Penn</p>

<p>By Bachelor’s-to-PhD outcomes: Brown>Dartmouth>>Penn
By graduation rate: Brown=Penn>Dartmouth
By Forbes ranking: Brown>Penn>Dartmouth</p>

<p>By research expenditures: Penn>>>>Dartmouth>Brown
By average starting salary: Penn>Dartmouth>Brown
By FT faculty salaries: Penn>Brown>Dartmouth</p>

<p>etc. etc.</p>

<p>Take the time and find what qualities in a university one values most and then find the university that most suits those needs. On another note, I’ve found this thread extremely entertaining, haha.</p>

<p>It’s just what you’re looking for - Penn is very pre-professional, Dartmouth has more of a LAC feel, and Brown is, well, they do what they want.</p>

<p>And to resident ■■■■■ prodigalson, I don’t know if WUSTL is more prestigious than Brown, maybe depends on your region. I would say that WUSTL is a better school than Brown in terms of quality of education.</p>

<p>Penn (disclosure, I’m an alum) only wins if you add in grad schools.</p>

<p>Many ‘in the know’ call Dartmouth the finest undergrad school in the country and it has been ranked so by credible surveys. Only Princeton within the ivy league is nearly as focused on undergrads.</p>

<p>At Dartmouth there are few TAs, profs are there to teach every class. </p>

<p>So my vote, in terms of how I as an employer have seen what they schools accept and turn out: Dartmouth, Brown, non Wharton Penn. Wharton, is in a category of it’s own and carries more prestige than Dartmouth but doesn’t offer the same undergrad focused experience.</p>

<p>I think, too, that many people have some strange misconceptions about Brown. The Open Curriculum does not mean “anything goes.” Given the caliber of student they admit, and the advising system, the average student must be putting a great deal of thought into planning a coherent program.</p>

<p>mat want to read reviews of students who have gone to those schools at students review dot com</p>

<p>I know someone who was admitted to Penn and Brown and went to Penn so he could sit next to the LOVE sculpture. No lie.</p>

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<p>Moreover, a majority of graduates will have pursued a course of study that fulfills what typically passes for “distribution requirements” these days.</p>

<p>The above is very true. Something like 95% of all students at Brown complete “traditional” distributive requirements (2 social science, 2 humanities, 2 physical science) purely of their own accord. Actually, because of the Pass/Fail option, students are probably more likely to take a wide array of classes because they don’t need to worry about a class outside of their specialty area harming their GPA, which is the actual reason the system exists, not so that students can slack off.</p>

<p>Thanks guys for all the replies. My friends and I know that these three schools have very high prestige and excellent undergraduate programs. We don’t think one is better than the other; for picking one of these schools, it all depends upon the student’s feel. We just wanted to see what the opinions of others were.</p>

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<p>Interesting how you use the conditional tense. You WOULD say if it were true, but since it isn’t, you DON’T say…</p>

<p>^ prodigal –</p>

<p>“I would say” is a colloquial expression. It is short for “If I were asked to comment, my comment would be …”</p>

<p>The subjunctive refers to the implied “IF I were asked”. It is not short for: “If I were to lie”, or “If I were to take an irrational position”, etc.</p>