rate the colleges...

<p>hi,</p>

<p>just wanted to know that on a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being the hardest), how difficult is it for an intl student to transfer from a lib arts college to one of these after just one year?</p>

<p>1)UT Austin
2)USC
3)UCLA
4)Boston
5)Georgetown
6)GWashington
7)Rice</p>

<p>also the fact if i do apply,ill probably apply for a place in engin.</p>

<p>UCLA and USC are probably the hardest(If you're an Asian)
Easiest would be UT.</p>

<p>1) Rice
2) Georgetown
3) USC
4) UCLA
5) Boston
6) UT - Austin
7) George Washington</p>

<p>That is my opinion. I could be completely incorrect.</p>

<p>secret to Rice: apply for the spring semester, and that is from the words of one of the associate deans at Rice</p>

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secret to Rice: apply for the spring semester, and that is from the words of one of the associate deans at Rice

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<p>Ironically, there are much fewer slots for Spring admissions.</p>

<p>but they have a higher acceptance rate</p>

<p>Do you mean Boston College or University? There is a HUGE difference...</p>

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but they have a higher acceptance rate

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<p>That is also incorrect.</p>

<p>thanks guys...any more comments??</p>

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<li>i was talking about boston university...</li>
<li>more info on rice would be helpful...although ill have to say that i hardly see anyone interested in rice around here...</li>
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<p>btw a couple of other questions;</p>

<p>if someone is applying for a transfer, after just one semester, doesnt it mean that the college to which he'll be applying to will scrutinize his high school records much more as compared to say a candidate who applies after one and a half years??</p>

<p>And secondly what is the best way to approach the current colleges admin about the transfer?</p>

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more info on rice would be helpful...although ill have to say that i hardly see anyone interested in rice around here...

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<p>Brilliant school. What specifically would you like to know?</p>

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if someone is applying for a transfer, after just one semester, doesnt it mean that the college to which he'll be applying to will scrutinize his high school records much more as compared to say a candidate who applies after one and a half years??

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<p>Yes, except for UT (and UCLA?). They do not consider your High School record.</p>

<p>cool0215 -UCLA and USC are probably the hardest(If you're an Asian)</p>

<p>Care to elaborate?</p>

<p>UT doesnt consider ur high school records even if ur applyin after just one semester???</p>

<p>also ive heard that it is easier for intl students to get transferred to UT(as compared to the US students)??? is it true or jus some weird rumour??</p>

<p>and abt rice...is there any real advantage in applyin in spring or was it just some false hope???</p>

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UT doesnt consider ur high school records even if ur applyin after just one semester???

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<p>They do not consider it, but you must accumulate 24 college hours by the date of matriculation.</p>

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<p>From what individuals at Rice have told me, it is false hope. In your case, it might even be worse. If you do not have a good high school record (-3.5), I would recommend waiting for one year or maybe even two.</p>

<p>nspeds said:
They do not consider it, but you must accumulate 24 college hours by the date of matriculation.</p>

<p>Actually, they won't consider you're application until you've accumulated 24 college hours. Maybe that's what you meant. </p>

<p>cool0215 said:
UCLA and USC are probably the hardest(If you're an Asian)
Easiest would be UT.</p>

<p>Uh, that's not entirely true. The admissions standards for UT are very case specific. I've found that it's much more difficult for in-state students to gain admission. The reason for this is that UT maintanes a very rigid, numbers-based admission process. UT specifically reserves 90% of the spots for in-staters and 10% for whatever else. Unlike California, nobody wants to live in Texas, except for, well, the people that live here. Thus, UT doesn't get many out-of-state or international apps. In Texas, everybody and their dog wants to go to UT because everybody and their dog wants to live in Austin. Since you're international, I would encourage you to apply. The business school is the hardest thing to get into. For in-state tranfers (like me) the average gpa was 3.95 with all of the indicator courses (Calc 1 & 2, Macro and Micro Econ). For the out-of-state apps, the average gpa was 3.52 and I doubt they had all of the indicator courses. Go figure. The liberal arts and natural sciences schools are the easiest to get into. However, UT isn't worth going to unless you are a business or engineering major (or you want to party your ace off in Austin and have nothing, but a worthless liberal arts degree to show for it). And according to the shining apotheosis of truth, US News, the business and engineering programs are very good. Are you Indian? UT seems to be quite popular with the Indian kids.</p>

<p>p.s. - Rice is an awesome school, but Houston sucks hardcore. Also, the UT business and engineering kids get the same jobs that Rice kids do. Plus, you get the added benefit of all the attractive girls/guys that got into the liberal arts school.</p>

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<p>No, I meant what I typed. When I applied I accumulated 23 hours. Since I was on the quarter system, however, I would have completed 35 hours by the end of the year. The admissions officer at UT held my application until the receipt of my end-of-year transcript, and I was admitted one week later.</p>

<p>Also, I am in-state. According to one adcom, the GPA cut-off for liberal arts is 3.6, though I do not know if that is true.</p>

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However, UT isn't worth going to unless you are a business or engineering major

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<p>That is nonsense. The faculty of philosophy at UTexas is astounding; the overall department is ranked higher than Rice's:
<a href="http://www.philosophicalgourmet.com/overall.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.philosophicalgourmet.com/overall.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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p.s. - Rice is an awesome school, but Houston sucks hardcore. Also, the UT business and engineering kids get the same jobs that Rice kids do.

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<p>Rice does an excellent job at cultivating a community within its campus; through such mechanisms as the residential college system as well as various other traditions and university spirit, I do not think students even realize they are in Texas. I know I do not. Even if one wishes to go beyond campus limits, the surrounding 'village' is not a slum; it is one of the most expensive - and beautiful - portions of Houston. </p>

<p>With regard to 'job benefits', Rice and UTexas are incommensurable. A far higher percentage of Rice grads enroll in graduate/professional school. I cannot say the same for UTexas grads.</p>

<p>nspeds - True, they will let you apply but they won't actually look at it until you have accumulated 24 hours. Just a misunderstanding.</p>

<p>You said:
That is nonsense. The faculty of philosophy at UTexas is astounding; the overall department is ranked higher than Rice's.</p>

<p>I didn't mean or say they the quality of the education was poor. I meant that the UT liberal arts degree, as pre-profesional as this sounds, is not very marketable.</p>

<p>As far as Rice being a great school and the West University area being very nice, I will not dispute your claim. However, having lived in Houston for 8 years, I am well qualified to say that Houston is hotter than hell. I do admire the fact that this heat has not deterred your pursuit of a great education.</p>

<p>You said:
With regard to 'job benefits', Rice and UTexas are incommensurable. A far higher percentage of Rice grads enroll in graduate/professional school. I cannot say the same for UTexas grads.</p>

<p>True, but you have to keep in mind that that about three quarters of UT undergraduates do not attend the business or engineering schools. In my opinion, business and eng grads do about as well as Rice grads.</p>