<p>I got a 740 on both the BIO and Math II subject tests....where does that put me in my eligibility for applying to IVY league (Univ. of Penn., Princeton,). havent yet taken the SAT's (yikes! time's running out), and GPA of above 4.0</p>
<p>I have many extracurricular activities. I got accepted to the PA governor's school of health care, started my own cultural dance club, and secretary of our Asian culture club, on NHS, held many positions in student council.
Does any of this help? i feel like all the school activities will be insignificant.</p>
<p>I'm pretty sure i'm not doing well enough...</p>
<p>How does early action work? You have only one chance to take the SAT's senior year, right? before applying for early action?</p>
<p>Bio sounds fine, but Math II I’m a little worried about because all of the math geniuses take it so the scale is sort of out of whack. I think the average for it is around a 620, so it’s around 100 points higher than it should. I mean if math isn’t one of your strengths, it should be okay, but med people are expected to be good at mathy science stuff, right?
Anywho, it’s okay but not spectacular, you might want to consider retaking Math if you want to secure a spot in the Ivy League.
Heads up, Ivy League calibre colleges generally will ignore your weighted GPA, so when you’re asking for help on these boards, it tends to help to post both unweighted and weighted.
Don’t think extracurriculars will be insignificant! Once you pass a certain point academically at these sorts of schools (in general 3.9+ uw GPA, 2280+ SAT or 34+ ACT) then it will all come down to your activities. I heard Harvard say once that around 90% of their applicants would do fine academically, but they just accept the ones who have most potential to excel later (whether or not they choose wisely is another topic altogether). So definitely show your passion in whatever it is that you love!
I really hope I’m not discouraging you here. From what it sounds like, you definitely have a decent shot at these top schools, but keep working harder to secure a spot!</p>
<p>I think your subject test scores is enough. You can still take SAT I/II-subject in June and October(Early action/decision) and until January if applying for RD. But remember, even people with perfect SAT scores, grades, activities, state titles, recommendations, etc., do not guarantee ivy schools. Some people do get in with less scores, grades, with no activities (1st generation to go college, unusual circumstances, who knows?) by all means, better chance to get in by Early Decision. (but if you are deferred, you better start looking at less competitive schools)</p>
<p>Are those subject tests good enough if i do NOT plan on doing anything math related in college and I plan on submitting the ACT as my major test (34)?</p>
<p>idk i always felt that just submitting one ACT score for and SAT and 2 SAT 2s would put someone at a disadvantage. Honestly, the ACT does not account for the depth of material that 3+ SAT tests do, and I’m sure that adcoms are aware of this. If you really don’t want to take the SAT, just take a couple SAT 2s. They aren’t as difficult as the real SAT anyway.</p>
<p>RZA, I’m sure that an SAT 2 doesn’t account for taking the actual class either. Who cares if you don’t take the SAT 2 and instead take the ACT if you make an A in those respective classes?</p>
<p>^Well, isn’t that the point of standardized tests? I mean, I know I got a really easy A in Math, but that’s just because the teacher was really easy. The standardized score would validate my transcript. Really, that’s all the SAT and ACT are supposed to do in theory.</p>
<p>Wneckkid- if you’re going for Penn, I would shoot higher.</p>
<p>Tzar-First question, have you taken a precalc course yet? Because they suggest you take MathIIC if you got an B or higher in precalc. If you have, it might look bad if you took MathIC (anyone know what the C stands for, by the way?) Second, the scores scale more properly with MathIC because those aren’t all the people who’s strength is math. So 730 sounds fine, if the answer to that first question is no.</p>
<p>So why don’t you have to take the standardized test in ever class? And I mean come on. Math IIC is a total joke, all I did was plug in formulas to my TI the night before and got an easy 700+. Clearly that shows mastery of course material, right?</p>
<p>Although they say that you can take the ACT in lieu of the SAT + some SAT 2s, I never quite understood exactly how the ACT (a shorter test than the SAT itself), could account for the same amount of test material as the SAT and a couple SAT 2s.</p>
<p>To Eloquence: Please note that I said theoretically. I know that standardized tests are rather silly and should always be taken with a pint of salt (does salt come in pints?).
And now I’m going off into a tangent.
First, in theory you wouldn’t need to take subject tests in everything because in college (even liberal arts ones) you specialize in some field, therefore theoretically you would only need to demonstrate your proficiency in a few subjects. Also, costs would get ridiculous, and not everyone is filthy rich.
Second, I’m a little concerned that you would talk about your good Math score that way. I mean, there are tons of people out there who can’t just plug things in on their calculator and get the answers. They just don’t understand all of the concepts so they just plug things in on for the right formula. And plus, I even already mentioned that the Math IIC test has an unusual number of high scores, I mean the number of perfect scores are ridiculous.
But anyways, say I had an easy teacher in Ap Chemistry who gives 1s to anyone who puts in effort? Just because I have that one doesn’t mean I have mastered the course material. However, the SAT II Chemistry (or the AP) test would validate whether or not I really had mastered the course. It’s tests like these that I would call more accurate, since they test knowledge rather than reasoning ability, which is easier to play the game with.
Anywho, done with my little rant, sorry.</p>
<p>I got an 800 in French, a 790 in US history, and a 750 in Math level II and I’m a sophomore.
I really would like to go to Penn and will probably double major in business and chinese. Are those scores good enough? Do you think I should retake the Math one?</p>