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<p>I've noticed that many of you taking the SAT abroad get pretty damn good verbal scores...do any you guys actually take the SAT 1 in your native language (is it possible?)?</p>

<p>what do you mean precisely?</p>

<p>oh you mean, taking SAT tests written in our nativelanguage form? say..SAT I written in Korean, not English huh?</p>

<p>Well. nope. IMPOSSIBLE TO HAPPEN.</p>

<p>yeah,that's unfair ..but nothing we can do about that..we run after USA ,not they run after us!</p>

<p>yea I mean taking the test in ur native language; for example, if you live in germany, would you take an SAT 1 that is in german? I'm just surprised to see people who don't even live in the U.S.A, rather, in foreign language speaking countries, and get higher scores than the average american on the verbal section of the SAT1.</p>

<p>it's just all about memorising vocabulary - and reading big fat books.
Average americans don't really study hard-out like us intels</p>

<p>then again, average americans don't all apply to prestigious schools. lol.</p>

<p>I'm wondering about that as well. I just got about 2 - 3 questions wrong in Math, but always bombed the Verbal big time. There is a big discrepancy between the scores of those two tests. The first time I took it, I got 420, and the second time, about a year ago, 510. Well, I didn't study at all, but I don't think it would have made a big difference even if I did.</p>

<p>i think it would've..</p>

<p>Studying = Vocabs
Nearly the whole SAT is based on vocabs</p>

<p>..Unless you are already a dictionary</p>

<p>Good day,</p>

<p>As a non-native speaker of English I scored 800 on the SAT Verbal. I would make it clear now that there is no such thing as an SATI in German, Romanian, Russian or Swahili. Only English. And the test is not easier for internationals, as it is made up out of sections from the previous 2 or 3 tests in the States. And no, I have not graduated one of those expensive private English-only schools. My school is a regular Romanian-only high-school, where I had 2 hours of English weekly.
The truth is that not all internationals score that good on the SAT. But most internationals need scholarships so they only apply to very competitive schools, which require very high SATs. Therefore, only those with top level SATs - 1300 is a minimum, I would say, can try to get into an American school.
And the SAT is hard indeed, especially in the verbal section. My point is, though, that sometimes it is better if you don't speak English as a first language in regard to the SAT. My apparently bewildering statement applies mostly to European languages, such as French, Spanish, German or Romanian, my native language. The SAT actually tests vocabullary - with a penchant for words that are hardly used in everyday life in English. This kind of vocabulary is largely stemming from Latin and Ancient Greek. Other languages have large parts of their elevated vocabullary coming from Latin and Ancient Greek also, for instance Romanian - only that many words that are uncommonly used in English are quite common in Romanian. A few examples here:
Eng: to adduce - Rom: a aduce = to bring
Eng: viscous - Rom: viscos = thick (reffering to liquid)
Eng: luster - Rom: lustru = brightness
Eng: to traduce - Rom: a traduce = to shame someone (also to translate)
These are only a few examples of cognates between Romanian and English. One may wonder how come there are so many common words between English and a language from Eastern Europe. The answer is French - which influenced the development of both English and Romanian, though at different times.
And one more thing - when you are here in Romania, you are motivated. You KNOW you have to do all your best and you focus exclussively on that, simply because you don't have other alternatives for a top-level education. Getting into college becomes something like a dream and that keeps you going. I feel that many Americans have this dream also - but I think that statistically American kids (and Germans or Britons, for the matter of fact) are less motivated. Again, not all, but most already have a good middle-class life, and not studying is certainly more confortable than studying.
The answer to all this is motivation and perseverance - focus yourself on what you want to accomplish and get used to seeing yourself winning. And work hard!</p>

<p>I definitely agree with bogororo.</p>

<p>Well, Koreans don't use ALPHABETS ever, and they don't have any clue for english words.. but working hard does pay off, I believe.</p>

<p>you've got a point bogorro
english and french are both my native languages. Some fancy english words are actually common french words. SO that helped me get my 800 for verbal.</p>

<p>scores:
SATI: V800 M720
SAT II: Math2C 800 Writing 750 French 800
are those scores good enough for ivy schools?</p>

<p>definitely...axfr</p>