SATs for international students

<p>What are good sat scores for us?
I mean, critical reading, sat 2 bio, etc, not math because it is universal</p>

<p>ps : good scores = enough to be competitive in the ivies' (and other similarly top schools) applicant pool :)</p>

<p>thanks guys</p>

<p>mid 700s and above.</p>

<p>and many times 800’s aren’t enough. How much money do your parents make?</p>

<p>Don’t get stuck on your scores, they just have to be good, but it is not at all imperative that you have a 2400 for sat 1 and for sat 2. It also depends where you come from. For example, China is one of the most competitive countries. The Ivy League schools can only admit a set number of applicants from China, regardless of the amount of applicants from China. Consequently, most applicants from China have insane scores. On the other hand, some countries are less competitive, such as mine(The Netherlands). For example, my brother got into Cornell with a 740 math, 580 writing, 620 CR. Whether you need FA is also important for non-US citizen applicants. Most importantly though, do not get stuck on those scores. Studying for days inside disables you to be an actual person in the real world. Be active in your community, do charity work, follow your passions. Those are also very important factors in the admissions process.
ANYWAY: to answer your actual question(haha): I would say math mid 700’s(Because it is not different) Writing also mid-700s. Cr could be a little bit lower because of its insane vocab questions. A low CR score is also compensatable with a high TOEFL score (or an equivalent test). Where are you from though? If it is China/India etc. you do need pretty high scores.</p>

<p>Well, I don’t really have to worry about $
and right now i live in brazil… Is it one of these countries you mentioned?
I am most worried about my CR score. I think I can pull off 690-720
is it good enough? Because, as you said, the vocab section is the most deletarious part!!
Aside from that, I took bio but got a 650… Guess I ain’t lucky, cus there were many questions about these crazy animals I had never heard of! I am planning on taking it again.
No need to worry about extracurriculars and volunteer work (after all, this is brazil, so there is always philantropy to do)!
When did your brother get in?</p>

<p>690-720 is fine!!
Brazil is not one of the most competitive countries I think, just normal I guess. Im not sure though. About the animals in the Bio SAT, I think there are 3/4 animals you should know(one is the grasshopper, thats all I remember:P). I used Barrons for the SAT Bio, and that covered the animals you have to know for your SAT Bio. By just studying that, I got a 760, im sure you can pull it off too!! My brother is in his senior year know, so he got in in 2005. You are class of 2015 I guess btw??</p>

<p>Yeep, class of 15 :slight_smile:
you were really helpful jjavdm! Thanks!! I will buy Barrons then, because I took it without studying bio in English (I thought most of the terms would look alike…)
one more thing…, if I take more than the 2/3 subject tests required, do you think they will see this positively? And consider only my best 2/3 scores?</p>

<p>Yup, more SAT 2 is better, and they will only look at your best scores, but they will consider the lower ones too. I would focus on getting 2/3 good scores first though!</p>

<p>Nice, I’m also class of 2015. What’s the hardest part for you? I find CR a bit difficult, math is very easy. And btw, is Croatia one of the competitive countries?</p>

<p>I’d say that the SATs should be around the same standard as applicants from the US.
But you could probably get away with not having a very high score if you were from a smaller and poorer country that was under-represented.
On the other hand, many of the top international schools and private/boarding schools around the world have pretty high SAT scores amongst the student body. One of the top high schools in Asia has an average SAT score around 2100~2200. That’s higher than the average scores in Exeter and all those top boarding schools in the US.</p>

<p>^International schools do not count(because your education is in english, your score should be just as high as american scores). However I do not agree they should have the same score in CR. Why else would there be a TOEFL? Also, you do not have to take the TOEFL if your CR is higher than 690, this indicates that top schools expect internaional students to score lower than a 690 on their CR section. Math and Writing should be just as high as american scores(or maybe a little bit lower). Same with subject tests. They also take into account that your entire school system may be different. For example, in Holland(where I live) you have to choose between two types of math, Math A and Math B(math b, the one i have, is usually regarded as the “hard kind”). The subjects you get in math A are different from the ones you get in Math B(math B is mostly calc/algebra), so the Math subject test was actually very hard for me because it tests all subject within math. Colleges know these type of things and will take them into account. Just do the best you can! </p>

<p>Also the scores from Holland are usually pretty low, just because our entire school system does not even remotely resemble the american/sat system, and Holland is a pretty well represented and rich country. They look at you in the pool of applicants from your country and every country is different.</p>

<p>SAT scores for international students especially if your first language is not english is not as important as other factors. But if English if your first language, you are expected to score in the 700s for Ivies.</p>