<p>I received an information sheet in the mail two days ago and faxed it today. Then I received an email informing me that I have won the award (for my state, probably). Did anyone else get this? If so, post the number of exams out of 8, your gender, and which state you are from. I think the stats will be quite useful for future over-achievers.</p>
<p>Louisiana, Male, 5 (Statistics, Calculus BC, Physics C Mech, Physics E&M, Chemistry)</p>
<p>I thought they notify the people in spring of 2008. Anyways, 5 APs certainly wont win in my state.</p>
<p>i get the advantage of being in louisiana. last year's male winner from my school had 3 and we didnt even have a female winner. i wonder where the national winner will be from. CA? NJ? FL?</p>
<p>I go to one of the best public schools in ohio and I think the most technical AP courses we offer before senior year is 5. This would require you to double up in science sophomore and junior year (chem and bio or bio and physics) and triple up in math junior year (stats, calc, compsci).</p>
<p>Of course if anybody in our class of 08 had decided to take physics before chem (very few do, since most opt to take chem after bio, which imo should be reversed anyways), they could have taken all 3 physics AP tests for 3 5's in addition to the 3 maths and bio. Actually that sounds pretty cool since stats and calc are fairly easy with a bit of work and good algebra skills and compsci is very well taught here. </p>
<p>Of course this is all hypothetical since our top math/sci student has taken 4 technical AP's to my knowledge.</p>
<p>Is there any way that we could find out our raw scores? All fives are not equal, right?</p>
<p>yeah i think in case of a tie they look at raw scores, which are not disclosed by cboard except to siemens corporation. thats what ive heard.
and at snipez90: there is always the thing about self-study. :)</p>
<p>i wish my school offered that many AP's........</p>
<p>Wait there are 8 math +science aps? I thought there are only 7. Can someone list out the aps?</p>
<p>Biology, Calculus BC, Chemistry, Computer Science AB, Environmental Science, Physics C : Mechanics, Physics C: Electricity and Magnetism, and Statistics.</p>
<p>Those are the 8 the Siemens foundation uses. Note they left Calc AB, Comp Sci A, and Phsyics B.</p>
<p>oh the comp sci and physics c.</p>
<p>To get this award, is it the number of science/math exams in a year, or your entire hs career?</p>
<p>entire life until the end of your junior year. (i say that because i saw on cboard stats that there were 2 nj middle school students who got national ap scholars. i wonder how many they'll end up having by junior year).</p>
<p>Oh, dear. I'm hoping that bold-lettered, all-caps warning to send the form in immediately didn't actually... mean... anything. </p>
<p>I got the letter, Georgia female, 5 5's of the 8. </p>
<p>Stats, Bio, Calc, Chem, and Mechanics. Why is it so easy to get? And why wouldn't there be a female winner from every state? Did they just not get anyone to send in the forms? Were there too many people tied? I mean, surely some girl in Louisiana made a five on one of these exams last year?</p>
<p>And how do you know the record for your state? Clever googling? Why would the information be available in a state where AP exams are obviously valued so little? </p>
<p>Physics C being EASY? Okay, I admit I was shocked (dully, very dully, as I come to expect these things, and, yes, the pomposity's a put-on) that I made a 5--I had absolutely no idea what I was doing and didn't even finish before time was called--but I took a year of classes (and skipped or drew through them, didn't do any of the homework, and had no tests, quizzes, or other grades after March, but you'd think the occasional panicked book-flipping and last-minute review would've at least finally taught me Newton's laws), and... yeah. I'm self-studying E&M this year and am completely lost and not going anywhere. It's so much easier to stare off into space. </p>
<p>How in the world can you learn both classes in a year? If you have a good teacher, yeah, but... It's been hard for me to comprehend a good teacher ever since I realized I'd fail out of the local magnet program and preempted the eventuality by quitting. </p>
<p>The whole notifying you in two days (not to mention apparently only sending forms to those who'll be winners?) gives it the air of a scam, although I guess it's real... but why on earth do they wait to announce them officially? And you can't possibly have WON-won the award when there's a clause saying you still have to be in high school in spring when they announce the winners, so what are they playing at? Why don't they tell you when they send out the form whether you're definitely gonna get it based on your scores if you don't fail one of the situational criteria--or tell you that you're a runner up?</p>
<p>the requirement to win is having 5s on at least THREE out of the eight exams before Senior Year. thus, it is somewhat harder to accomplish. its not hard to find out that in some states there was only one winner last year from the pdf on the official website.</p>
<p>Quote: "how do you know the record for your state?"
the male winner of last year went to the same school with me. i actually had 3 classes with him.</p>
<p>and seeing that you are new to CC, i advise you not to be surprised by overachievers. if you go on the SAT forum, you'll see 2400s flying everywhere. ;)
as for physics C, i think having a physics B background makes it much easier.</p>
<p>Oh, tongchen1226 already replied...
And it's two, not three, 5's to qualify.</p>
<p>From the Siemens site: "A student must attain a score of 5 on at least two of the exams listed above to qualify."</p>
<p>No, you just have to have a 5 on at least two. I reread the letter. It's somewhat better than what I originally thought but still kinda mystifying. </p>
<p><em>refrains from giving her opinion on people scoring 2400 on the SAT who actually care enough to haunt an online site, and on overachievers in general</em></p>
<p>I always thought THEY were the natural enemies of the truly intelligent, but I suppose there's some small subset who are the intersection. </p>
<p>Oh, the physics B thing would have helped tremendously. I haven't even had physical science. The last physics-related class I had before AP Physics C was in 6th grade--and the regular teacher got called out with the national guard at the beginning of the year, leaving us with someone who asked ME to read the textbook and interpret it for her. All I remember is (a) the electromagnetic spectrum, (b) that dogs and humans have different hearing ranges, and (c) that light works in mysterious ways. Diffraction and refraction, baby!</p>
<p>Didn't help in mechanics. Not helping in e&m. I'm going through the lightandmatter.com textbook so the basics can be explained to me, although a lot of the first part overlaps with chem, and I spent two weeks or something on the non-relevant stuff. Just getting to analysis of circuits. I think I'll be alright. One semester more!</p>
<p>Wow, I'm an idiot who doesn't notice when there's a second page of replies.</p>
<p>TOTALLY wasn't expecting replies so fast. You people are geeky, but conveniently so. </p>
<p>Anyway, sorry for the irrelevant ramblings.</p>
<p>ehh.... i always thought its 3. two just makes it seem even sadder that louisiana didnt have a math/science girl.</p>
<p>lol, I got 6-7 5s and I didnt get anything, obviously due to living in NY. I would like to blame my school and myself (for not getting a 5 in CS AB). Most of all I would like to blame CC for getting my hopes up back in the winter. >_></p>
<p>How does this AP award for math/science compare in prestige to the other AP awards(e.g. AP scholar with distinction, National AP scholar)? And do any other ones give out scholarship money????</p>