<p>^lol.. nicely put. You seem like a pretty mature young man. How old are you?</p>
<p>haha.. you always end your comments so weird. It's funny though. :]</p>
<p>^^^ the above is meant to go at the bottom of the post. NO clue why the blasted thing is doing that. Keeps giving me 10chars whenever I try to edit it, despite there being a substantial number of characters in my post :[</p>
<p>Dad?</p>
<p>And nononono, I've not once said that sex is the prime determinant of a successful relationship, simply that sex is the one thing that differentiates a platonic relationship from a non-platonic one (errr, by definition). I simply see no difference between a sexless "relationship" (which semantically isn't a relationship at all) and a purely platonic friendship. The friendship part is the most valuable, the most worthy of preservation -- I've never claimed otherwise.</p>
<p>Which is why the OP puzzles me. She already has that most precious of relationships, and the only thing lacking is the sexual aspect, which is easily attainable for such a supposedly attractive lass.</p>
<p>I get carried away sometimes, lol. I am glad I have had the conversations I've had with people though. I'm glad to have this information before I really get my life started, I mean I have my whole life ahead of me, not even out of college yet. But you can learn so much by just asking. You can be amazed by the replies. I find myself just being amazed at life itself. I think that engineering or the sciences makes it all the more better, when you understand the physical world, and then combine it with emotional information. Even understanding the physics of some things. It can lead to some pretty insane conversations, lol. If you understand it now while you are young, you'll live a way better life. Listen to the women in your life, lol. Whether that would be your mother, grandmother, aunt, or whatever. They have some valuable information. Make your life easier, and then you can actually understand some of what comes out of the woman you are datings mouth. I'm not saying you will comprehend all of the words, no man can do that, they would have to create a whole new division of noble prize awards, lol. But atleast you will get the idea, and sometimes that is all women want, just get the picture, and they will draw out the details. Hell, if you can even see the frame, that will suffice. Some people say life is simple, others say complex, I say it is both, all depends who you talk to. If I could only help some of my friends, some are just too wild, while others need their girlfriends to give their balls back, lol.</p>
<p>19, I get the whole dad bit a lot, thanx son, lol. My friends are like dude, you need to like be like Dr. Phil, I was like no dude, I like to keep my hair. I couldn't deal with those peeps problems, good god.</p>
<p>^ahahaha. :] Wow 19? Let me guess, your taken? haha. it would surprise me if you weren't.</p>
<p>The dad comment was in response to your irksome use of the euphemism "son." To the best of my knowledge, you are not, nor will you ever be, my "father."</p>
<p>^moodrets.. yeah, i think he caught on to that.</p>
<p>If he did, then the entirety of his contribution to this thread has been a pretty epic case of trolling. Maybe I'm just dense now and my detectors are on the fritz, it's late, don't shoot me.</p>
<p>Though I commend you, OP, on playing along. Very crafty.</p>
<p>Wow this thread have gotten a lot of post in a short time.</p>
<p>But that is what I am trying to say, and that is the point you are missing moodrets. I know you might be thinking, like oh this guy has lost his effin mind. But I'm serious dude, hopefully you will find it out with age. You know the whole emotional thing leads people to do things are seek things they weren't necessarily seeking in the first place. For example, like young boys when growing not having a father, so they don't know what kind of image to portray as a man, or them not having a mother and not being in touch with their emotions. Or a young girl not having a father figure, and they don't know father is, someone to give that sense of protection, or the fatherly image. So, they might end up seeking that in relationship that end up harming them futher or damaging their emotional state more than it was to begin with. Or not knowing how a woman should carry themselves and act, which that those instances can lead to all sorts of complications, or maybe some good are bad things. The point I am trying to get at is everyone needs different levels of friendship, or emotional levels of connection so to speak. Everyone wants friends or some form of friends, people need parents, that father/mother figure. Siblings, aunts, uncles, the works. They all play a role, no matter how small or how significant, in building that person into an stable and capable individual. I mean it has been proven, time and time again, study after study. Even geographic location takes its toll on people. The people in Darfur aren't having a conversation like this, they are worried about where they are going to sleep tonight, or where they will get food and water tomorrow. It even gets seperated into male and female needs. Men are more to themselves, while women are more touchy feely. Which is why just using the word love to designate something, or even the word relationship to designate a friends is so stupid, which is why the english language sucks. The greeks addressed this, now don't quote me on it, but they had around 12-13 ways to say love. It is somewhere around that figure, I can't remember at this very moment. They had a word to describe a love between a man a woman, the love between a man and his son, the love between a man and another man, the love between a man and his brother, and so on. The english language, is rather broad, which is why the dead languages are so much more beautiful and precise. Because in english when you say something, it can mean several different things, but when you said something in Greek they knew exactly, precisely what you meant. Which just a conversation like that, in itself, can lead to so many unimaginable thoughts and situations. Which, finally getting to my point, is why the girl cannot be satisfied with her platonic friends, and will not be satisfied with just a sexual partner, because a platonic friend, and a real lover, which to a woman, is so much more than sex. Which to us men, that is rather like wow, is that possible. Which I will answer what you have implied, some women don't give a **** most men because they haven't found men that meet their needs, so they said " hell, if you can't beat them, join them, so that is why you have women that are just like the fishermen above, taking whatever opportunity hops on up. So, that is about as much as I can break it down. You might still think I'm crazy, or something, but atleast it is all straight in my mind, lol.</p>
<p>Well, I'm not taken, lol. Then you ask well why this guy doesn't have a woman, oh he must be gay, or something is going on. I assure you I have gotten every complex stare, gesture, and bewildered look that you can imagine. But if you would like to know why ask any engineering professor, lol. See, I guess I went into engineering to get a decent job, but like my friends and cousins, they were all pretty active people, and social people. Hell, I was a pretty popular guy, I was the head of and voted, just about everything in the book at my highschool. But, engineering is not any of those things. Everything I ever did in my life, was everything or nothing at all. I give it my all. Which is why I am carrying a 4.0 in engineering, while most of my buddies are on academic probation or are two steps away from getting kicked out of the universities they are attending. So, because of that, I am commited to what I am doing. Which I like in the aspect of learning I like, but hate because I am not enjoying what really makes life worth living. That might be a excuse to some people, but until they actually experience the work load, they don't know what it is. I haven't met a person yet who can balance both, either you are barely making it, or it is the priority your life. Which defeats the purpose of going into engineering regardless, because low gpa, equals crappy job, which equals crappy salary, which is also equal to wondering why you did engineering in the first place. If you make it the rewards are great, but you have to ask yourself if it is worth the sacrifice. Although, my relatives who have made it are still single, or atleast putting off marriage until 30's. I am debating whether I am doing what I am supposed to do or not. I think that is the problem with everyone these days, they want to have there cake and eat it too. That is why everyone is staying in the liberal arts and social sciences. Then you can do what you want. But thing is, in this economy those people can't even find jobs, unless you teach something. Which I'm not a teacher. Being an engineer gives me diversity, also gives me a good career that will always be in demand. But then again, you aren't promised tomorrow, and you question if you are following your heart or you are leading yourself blindly to nothing. I'm the type of person that can do anything, but I choose engineering thinking wow, not that long, good job, yeah, get in get out, no. Would have went, be a doctor or a pharmacist, but I visted some med schools, and realized I thought I had it bad, pssfff. Those guys are machines. In fact, most doctors nowdays have to actually hire a matchmaker to find them a wife or husband. No kidding, it was even on 20-20, lol. I thought I had my career figured out, but that went all out of the window.</p>
<p>Sorry to offend you mood, that was never my initial intentions, but by now, you are tired of hearing my long strung out, comments, lol, so I'll shut up, lol. Or atleast chop my comments down some.</p>
<p>Moodrets, I agree with your point about how there's no real difference between relationship and friendship except sex...but I'd like to expand that to many kinds of physical contact (with sexual under- or overtones) that are not socially-acceptable between friends but fine between 'lovers.' For example, with teenagers sex isn't necessarily involved in relationships but other things like kissing and hand-holding will be.</p>
<p>My answer to what the OP wants vs. relationship vs. sex: In a relationship/'love' you get a flood of oxytocin or whatever, the pair-bonding hormone, so you'll always feel a special attraction towards that one person. Platonic friendship doesn't involve that form of affection, and mere sexual activity doesn't involve it to as much of a degree either since with a casual sex deal there's no real affection binding you to that person other than sexual attraction and sexual attraction can occur between almost anyone... yea kinda rambling...</p>
<p>Holyyy crap. That was a long post haha.
But it had a lot of good things said in it. :]</p>
<p>Mannn.. I wish you lived near here.. you sound like my ideal guy haha..
I want to go into engineering, and I think it's crazy important to work hard. I know it gets tough to balance out social life and work. Also, I'm still considering pre-med, but from what I've been exposed to, it seems my passion is leading more toward engineering. </p>
<p>How did you end up at LSU with so much motivation? Why not Berkeley or Cornell?</p>
<p>no offense, but your problem is one of 3 things:
1. your not that good looking
2. you tend to be drawn towards gay guys
3. you give off the "friend zone" vibe (most likely)</p>
<p>aaaahm I only read the first and last two pages...</p>
<p>***?</p>
<p>Lol, there... are only three pages.</p>
<p>Change your ppp settings ;]</p>
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<p>Loser(Unless you're a Christian of course).</p>
<p>For some reason my comment number hasn't move off of 161 in a while, anyone knows why that is?</p>
<p>^ Yeah, high school life posts don't count toward post count.</p>
<p>What's so wrong about not having sex until you're married? I believe it's a decision that takes a lot of thought.</p>
<p>Yeah, unfortunately, thinking before making a big decision is not exactly something that people have at the top of their to do list. In a world of fast food, pay day loans, and sub prime mortgages, what do you expect, lol.</p>