@rickle1 the music in the house is lovely - that was always my favorite part. I think you are right on the mark with your analogy to a college athlete. At my daughter’s high school they use Naviance and track students scores and grades and where they attend and basically told us our MT girl was a category all of her own and similar to a college athlete. That is the point I was trying to make above. Based on what I know of other students grades and scores and resumes, which I would never disclose publicly, I stand by my statement. But when I say what matters is what you do in the room I mean a lot of things. Yes you have to have great cuts, an non-overdone monologues, etc. but it’s also about connection and poise. I think ability to communicate with adults is a real strength and enjoyment of the process. As well as the ability to make a mistake in an audition and recover from it. I often see people advised to cast a wide net and that makes sense - I am just saying don’t rule things out or get caught up in silly AP escalation - this is a different kettle of fish. But this is just my opinion.
I will add in that whether or not a college will accept dual enrollment or other college credits earned in high school is very school specific. Just like whether or not they will accept a 3, 4 or 5 from an AP course to count is school specific.
My D goes to an OOS public university and all of her AP and college credit courses counted (they came from our state university flagship - not a community college, so maybe that helped). She had half of her liberal arts requirements done before she started. We know an OOS student at the Guthrie program (Minnesota) who also brought college credits from the same high school program my D got hers from, as well as AP classes, and they all transferred except one AP where this student didn’t get a high enough score. Due to coming in with many core class credits already completed, that student now has room in the schedule for classes in another area of interest and may be able to earn a minor (where normally there is no room in the packed BFA schedule for this).
The admin at the high school my D went to actually encourages the college courses over AP as in his experience more students have found success in transferring the college credits vs AP (maybe kids didn’t achieve a high enough AP test score or certain prestigious colleges/universities don’t accept AP for specific majors, etc).
I do know true dual enrollment is through community college generally and those may be harder to transfer OOS or to a private school (where our high school has an arrangement with the state university to take university courses in high school - we do have to pay for them, at a reduced rate, though).
@bfahopeful - the tricky part with dual enrollment is that it is different for every state. AP is a national system - therefore “simpler”. I would also note that UNCSA and Guthrie are both public, in my experience, public colleges are far more open. And of course, the more academically competitive the school, the more restrictive it may be - all the way up to the truly “elite” (HYPS et al) which, to the best of my knowledge, don’t accept any AP or dual - b/c they don’t have to. Even though I imagine LARGE numbers of their applicants have those types of classes under their belt
@toowonderful yes! exactly - you said it so much better than I did. That is why the admin at our high school suggested doing the college courses (they are not actually dual enrollment) and has found more of those highly selective/elite colleges will accept the transfer credits over AP. Although most of the kids take both - so it probably doesn’t really matter. (and as you noted, some colleges may take none of them at all).
Also - I may have misread something above but thought it had been written that OOS universities won’t accept dual enrollment which is why I used the 2 OOS public U’s in my examples to show they may. We also know kids at private colleges/universities and their credits also transferred (but again they were earned from a reputable state U and not a community college through ‘true’ dual enrollment).
I do think community college credits might be tricky to transfer OOS -to a public U or not.
Didn’t mean to make it more confusing! Just trying to point out that every college is totally different and you probably need to check with a particular school to see what the policy is for transfer credits and/or AP credits coming in. Even UNCSA had to do a specific review of the college transcripts (from courses taken in high school) before they accepted the outside college credits. Don’t think they accept all college level courses as transfer credits.
Good luck to all!