Sophomore, Still Hates College?

Thing is going to be long, but I don’t know. I feel like it’s less on the college and just me at this point. Even as a sophomore it’s still not getting better, I still hate it. I feel like I’m not right for college.

I don’t know what I’m doing. I’m struggling socially, mentally, and constantly pressured academically. Everyone says college is the best, hard but a blast, and that you’ll find “your people” when you’re there. That you shouldn’t stress about your major, “you’ve got time”.

I went through my freshman year undecided at university - hated it. I’d moved in early as part of a program (“leadership” workshops, moving in 100+ students into their dorms) in hopes of making friends and adjusting sooner - I’d made a couple friends during that time, but as soon as the school year stated, I fell out of contact with all of them.

The rest of the year was a downhill trend. I was taking classes that were of little to no interest but necessary for graduation credits, I got a part-time job at the university, I attended a 6-week undecided program outside of classes that supposedly helped students better understand what to do with their life (for me, it didn’t help), I joined a couple clubs. 1st semester I joined Asian American Society - dropped early into 2nd semester because I wasn’t making friends with anyone, they were all very cliquey. The other club was similar but smaller, but I dropped because again, it just wasn’t that pleasant.

It was just isolating, I was constantly depressed and had no friends. I stuck through and returned this year – sophomore year – but literally had a private breakdown during move-in week because I was just freaked out, back in this toxic environment. Because I still have no idea. I’m in two volunteering club, everyone is nice, but again, no friends. I tried rushing for a sorority, in hopes of creating tight-knit community this year - but dropped during the rush process because I just could not afford the dues, I am not a rich student unlike the majority of this school.

Oh yeah, the kicker to all this? I’m a full ride student - education-lotto winner right here, I’m literally not exaggerating by saying scholarships fell into my lap while other kids in the world busted their asses to get even a dime. And I’m still miserable. I feel like a POS, I wish I was having a blast or at least had more of a drive to be something - but I’m not, I don’t. But it’d just be so stupid to transfer because I’m attending such a good school (Big 10) for free. I’m trapped. I just feel so, so undeserving to be here, I feel like I’m wasting my time and their money, and I question why I was even accepted or why I was worthy of getting these scholarships – what did they see that I’m missing? What am I doing wrong?

There’s just so much more I haven’t even talked about in this post, but it’s already long enough. At this point I feel I wasn’t accepted into this school because of my capability, I truly feel like I was accepted because I was an in-state, Asian-minority, small-town poverty, 1st generation kid - just a sliver to add to their percentage on their stats page to show how “diverse” and “accepting” this school is.

" I was constantly depressed "…this is what I would address first. You could be at the best college ever and it still won’t feel right until you address possible depression. Go to your Counseling Center and talk to them and maybe get a referral.

@bopper Yes. I did see a counselor last year and I thought that was beneficial. I’d never gone to therapy before that but college has really unveiled how generally unhappy I am. This past Friday I went back and signed up for an appointment, first appointment is next Wednesday. I’m hoping I can just figure out what’s happening upstairs, if I’m clinically depressed or just super stressed/over-dramatic or what.

I have a friend who went through this at an Ivy League school quite a few years ago. She stuck it out – it wasn’t the great experience she expected, but she accepted it for what it was and got the big name degree. I don’t think she is sorry.

Not sure what your housing arrangement is – if your campus has co-op housing, you should look at that. It tends to be a pretty friendly environment. I lived in one senior year of my big 10 college days, and wish I’d found it sooner.

What majors are you considering? Have you taken 1-2 classes in each to see if you like them? Also visited career services to see what you can do with the majors that interest you.

First off it is great that you did make arrangements to resume counseling. That can only help you.

It would be a shame to give up the full ride so the trick is to find some way to make things at least tolerable for the rest of your time there. Are you sure you gave the clubs enough of a chance before you quit? It often takes a while to break in with a group. If those clubs didn’t work look into other clubs or activities. Keep trying.

@intparent Right now I live in a single dorm, but I’ve signed on for an apartment on-campus with three other girls next year. One of them is someone I’ve known for years (from my hometown), a friend but not a close one. The other two girls seem very nice, though, and the friend has lived with one of them before.

Right now I’m shooting for Communications. I took a prereq course last year and am taking the intro course currently. I have visited career services, and I met with a guidance counselor outside of my uni this past August. Overall, my assessments (MBTI, Holland Codes) say I’m a creative/investigative type, which I agree with. I just know I want to do something that involves writing or creative input/direction? So maybe project management or honestly freelance writing. I have a printed list of “careers of comm majors” but I just haven’t been making the time to research, it always gets so overwhelming every time I start, and I just get vague answers from the internet.

I’m thinking of making an appointment with my academic adviser, I just feel like I’d have nothing to say but, “Okay, so I have a vague idea of what I’m doing, please help…” and see how it rolls from there?

I’d spend time at career services getting ready to apply for summer internships – trying out the work associated with a given major canbe realit helpful.

@happy1 Yes, it would be a shame. It makes me annoyed that I just have to tolerate - rather than overcome - the poor feelings, however. At this point I’m taking on a pessimistic view that I’m just not going to enjoy the rest of my time here and that I’ll just have to grit my teeth and get through and get out in four years - I know I do not want to attend grad school. It upsets me that I do have this mindset, but yeah, hopefully counseling can help me cope better this semester or help plan my next move, because I’m still so lost right now.

The Asian club, yes, I’m sure I will not return. There was (relationship) drama between several board members and the club itself was highly unorganized. Nice people, but I just never knew what to say around them, just the type of people I couldn’t click with/couldn’t generate interesting conversation with/could not be myself around. I realized - too late - I joined all those Asian clubs in hopes of finding people “like myself” - I was focusing on race/ethnicity rather than actual interests.

To be honest…at this point I just feel it’s too late in the semester to join any of the “interest” clubs (i.e. archery, yoga, etc). Dues are past and I’m just really bad a socializing with people who already have their set groups of friends. The volunteering clubs I’m in because I need to get 20 hours per year to maintain my scholarship (other requirements too, which is why I constantly feel like I’m about to lose all that money and screw up my life). I thought I was doing the sorority, but then that fell apart, and I had to leave campus one weekend for family stuff back in September, which was when a lot of club stuff/mass meetings were happening. It’s just…yeah.

@intparent That was another goal of mine this year, yes. I’m actually trying to sign up for an “immersion field trip” right now, but I’m torn between which two I want to attend (because you can only go on one per semester and these are specific companies students visit that you might not always get the chance again). One is at a publishing company and another is at an advertising company. On one hand, I love writing - it’s one of the few, if not the only, things I’m passionate about and I’d love to see the inner workings of a small publishing company. On the other hand, the advertising company we’ll be seeing a lot of different positions - i.e. broadcast product, creative, account management, etc - so I feel like that field trip would better expose me to a variety of positions in a field that, while I don’t love, would make sense for my current major. I might just have to make that appointment now and talk it over before the deadline’s up.

@K8Nichol

A good skilled therapist can help you see how your mind works, help you see the stories your mind is weaving about your life, and give you tools to deal with your “monkey brain” and your feelings.

I’m a big fan of DBT therapy, which has it’s roots in secular Buddhism and mindfulness techniques. There are good workbooks available on Amazon, although you’ll get the most out of working with a practitioner for an extended period of time.

The truth is, not everyone has that college experience where they say “It was the best years of my life!”. I sure didn’t! I got through it, crawled across that finish line and got my degree. I’m in my mid-50s now, and I can tell you, despite our youth-focused culture, there is a LOT to look forward to as you age, and you slowly build a life worth living.

The truth is, lots of people struggle with self-doubt, self-loathing, low mood, anxiety. LOTS. I’d even argue that our brains have evolved to make us feel unsatisfied much of the time.

One last thing, my children are out of the house, and I have a lot more free time. I’ve looked around and was shocked to see how small my social circle had become. I wanted to go see a comedian who was coming to town. Asked one girlfriend. She was busy. Asked another. She said yes, but then cancelled. I still went to the show. Sure, it wasn’t as fun as if I had been with a good friend, but it sure beat staying home and feeling sad.

It’s not easy to make good friends. I really do understand and I’m living it right now all over again. But, you can walk through the world being friendly, having a slight smile on your face instead of a frown, and getting out there and doing things.

We have a sophomore in college and she didn’t have an easy time freshman year socially. She recently went on a weekend adventure with the Rec Center on campus. First, she asked some friends if they wanted to go. Everyone she asked said no! She went anyways, and met 9 new people. Are they instant best friends? Of course not. Was the trip the best trip she’s ever taken? Of course not. But she DID have a nice weekend, experiencing something new and different.

Live your life! Get a therapist to help you! You are worth it!

@Midwest67 Thank you, that really did help. I’ll have to look into that DBT theory, sounds interesting. I’ve had a handful of therapists and can openly discuss with one of my family members (who also goes to therapy) the process. I’m slowly learning that therapists are not a “one fits all”, you just have to find the right one. And, of course, that healing - coping - takes time. Some days just suck more than others, really badly.

@K8Nichol

You’re welcome! Yes, no doubt about it, some days do just suck really badly. :wink:

If you are a reader, you might enjoy Robert Wright’s recent book, “Why Buddhism is True”. It’s about basic Buddhism tenets re: how the mind works, and what modern psychology/neuroscience/evolutionary biology is confirming.

Very good on audio, to listen to, as you get out for a walk in the fresh air, smiling at the people you pass by.

https://www.amazon.com/Why-Buddhism-True-Philosophy-Enlightenment/dp/1439195455

@Midwest67 Thanks for the link! I’ve never gotten into Buddhism, but every time I get a glimpse, its ideals always sounded very mentally helpful!

@happy1 Yes, it would be a shame. It still makes me annoyed that I just have to tolerate - rather than overcome - the shitty feelings, however. At this point I’m taking on a pessimistic view that I’m just not going to enjoy the rest of my time here and that I’ll just have to grit my teeth and get through and get out in four years - I know I do not want to attend grad school. It upsets me that I do have this mindset, but yeah, hopefully counseling can help me cope better this semester or help plan my next move, because I’m still so lost right now.

The Asian club, yes, I’m sure I will not return. There was (relationship) drama between several board members and the club itself was highly unorganized. Nice people, but I just never knew what to say around them, just the type of people I couldn’t click with/couldn’t generate interesting conversation with/could not be myself around. I realized - too late - I joined all those Asian clubs in hopes of finding people “like myself” - I was focusing on race/ethnicity rather than actual interests.

To be honest…at this point I just feel it’s too late in the semester to join any of the “interest” clubs (i.e. archery, yoga, etc). Dues are past and I’m just really bad a socializing with people who already have their set groups of friends. The volunteering clubs I’m in because I need to get 20 hours per year to maintain my scholarship (other requirements too, which is why I constantly feel like I’m about to lose all that money and screw up my life). I thought I was doing the sorority, but then that fell apart, and I had to leave campus one weekend for family stuff back in September, which was when a lot of club stuff/mass meetings were happening. It’s just…yeah.

@happy1 Yes, it would be a shame. It still makes me annoyed that I just have to tolerate - rather than overcome - the shitty feelings, however. At this point I’m taking on a pessimistic view that I’m just not going to enjoy the rest of my time here and that I’ll just have to grit my teeth and get through and get out in four years - I know I do not want to attend grad school. It upsets me that I do have this mindset, but yeah, hopefully counseling can help me cope better this semester or help plan my next move, because I’m still so lost right now.

The Asian club, yes, I’m sure I will not return. There was (relationship) drama between several board members and the club itself was highly unorganized. Nice people, but I just never knew what to say around them, just the type of people I couldn’t click with/couldn’t generate interesting conversation with/could not be myself around. I realized - too late - I joined all those Asian clubs in hopes of finding people “like myself” - I was focusing on race/ethnicity rather than actual interests.

To be honest…at this point I just feel it’s too late in the semester to join any of the “interest” clubs (i.e. archery, yoga, etc). Dues are past and I’m just really bad a socializing with people who already have their set groups of friends. The volunteering clubs I’m in because I need to get 20 hours per year to maintain my scholarship (other requirements too, which is why I constantly feel like I’m about to lose all that money and screw up my life). I thought I was doing the sorority, but then that fell apart, and I had to leave campus one weekend for family stuff back in September, which was when a lot of club stuff/mass meetings were happening. It’s just…yeah.

Woah, sorry for the double post. I typed that response days ago and had trouble posting it at the time, so I’m about 99 percent sure that was a glitch

@KBNichol You’re at college just to get an education not to have a blast. Focus on your education. Keep trying new things… Service clubs, sports clubs. Ask people to study with you.

Next semester take a sports class if clubs have already started.

@gearmom Guess I’m a greedy person - because why can’t I get an education and have a blast? There’s a balance to it, isn’t there? I don’t know if my post gave the impression of “oh, I just want to have fun alll the time in college” - if it did, I apologize. I know college is supposed to be hard, it’s supposed to be challenging and of course it’s about the academics. But, I didn’t expect to be constantly miserable. I thought I would be motivated, more driven to study and work towards higher education - but I just found I’m really not that ambitious of a person.

I thought it’d be more middle of the road - fun sometimes, stressful the rest of the time. Not one extreme. That’s what bothers me. So when everything else outside of education is lacking - and even within education I lack clear goals to work towards to justify why I’m here, other than the fact that my parents groomed me to be - it’s easy to get sucked in this black vortex of negative/irrational thoughts that are hard to escape.

That aside…For what it’s worth, I signed up for an anxiety workshop. That first, then maybe actual clubs in the future. Had my first therapy session for this semester. Maybe there’s a yoga class or something I can start next semester. With what I have planned now class-wise, I doubt I’ll have room to fit in a sports club.

PS: it’s the number eight in my username.

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These are people that you have another 2 and a half years with and then you won’t see them again. Others have wondered on here and I am also wondering if this generation has lost real life social skills needed to make friends and connections. Maybe the social media, availability of handhelds or structured childhoods. Something is different because so many seem unable to cope or connect.

What about study abroad? Something completely new and adventurous. Or the National Student Exchange.

And just checking because this came up elsewhere. Are you eating healthy food? If you are vegetarian are you taking vitamins?