<p>If this is the way they act for this particular “infraction,” what do they do in other situations. If this punishment is inflicted and no one speaks up, then what else are they doing? This may be just the tip of the iceberg, and I would think seriously whether this is a group I want to belong to.</p>
<p>I agree, speak up. She just needs to come out of the basement and tell the “sisters” to forget about sitting in the basement and to forget about her ever paying the fines. Especially since they have apparently “forgiven” the other late arrival.</p>
<p>There are a lot of issues that need to be addressed here: The first, sitting in the basement is, disgusting. That is called hazing and should be brought up at Panhellenic.</p>
<p>The other issues regarding the scheduling of recruitment camp: Your daughter knew about that. Unless the rush chair was an idiot, your daughter knew that this was a requirement. Your daughter was probably required to submit a letter detailing her travel plans and she didn’t do it. If this was a last minute trip for a family emergency, again a letter is accepted and expected. Please note: Your daughter went through recruitment last year. She saw how complicated it was. Did she think that all that came from thin air? Again, assuming the rush chair isn’t/wasn’t an idiot there were emails send all summer regarding recruitment. And a fine of $50 a day (which wouldn’t have been an issue if your daughter had been excused) is actually on the low side.</p>
<p>But, making a “sister” be the object of degredation to prove a point: wrong. And in the end, the infraction should not warrent the silent treatment, the basement treatment…or anything like that.</p>
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<p>Note that the OP says this year the rush activities began earlier than in previous years. At a well-run sorority the recruitment chair would have communicated to her sisters last spring, before any early plane tickets were bought, about the new schedule and the need for sorority sisters to arrive on campus early to prepare.</p>
<p>Then again, at a well-run sorority, no sister would be banished to the basement and given the silent treatment. So it may well be the case that this sorority is run by incompetents. Mean incompetents.</p>
<p>This sounds so extreme that I wonder if it was all meant literally. This was communicated from sorority to daughter, then daughter to mom, then mom to CC, and maybe some hyperbole crept in along the way. Perhaps the basement is where all the alumni and other non-rushing sisters work on behind-the-scenes preparation? Perhaps the “silence” means that she won’t be talking to rushees?</p>
<p>If we’re talking about a literal corner in the basement, and a literal gag order, then I agree that this chapter is bad news and the OP’s daughter should think hard about continuing her membership. I would think that even if the OP’s daughter got a ton of warning about the consequences of missing rush and dropped the ball.</p>
<p>200 or more girls in this sorority? Wow. Sounds selective.</p>
<p>Am I the only one here who questions the validity of this post?</p>
<p>Well, if dudette is serious I think both the college and the national office of the sorority would be very interested in hearing about how these young women treat their “sisters.” This sort of thing is frowned upon with pledges. Can’t see how they get away with it with full-fledged members.</p>
<p>Am I the only one here who questions the validity of this post?</p>
<p>Just noted number of previous posts- hmm.</p>
<p>200 or more girls in this sorority? Wow. Sounds selective.</p>
<p>I thought that sounds strange too- unless it is a huge dorm and that is how the school separates it out.
I really don’t know much about sororities my mom was in one, but that was the 1950’s.</p>
<p>This is a really bizarre post and I highly doubt it’s true.</p>
<p>Don’t most sorrorities have alumni involved in the recruitment phase? It seems like whenever a sorrority or fraternity gets in trouble for idiotic lord of the flies type stuff it is when there are no alumni present or involved in the planning.</p>
<p>If it’s true, then your D should talk to someone, because I’m sure her sorrority would not want that going on. If it’s not true, but a ■■■■■, which I suspect, then, what. ev. er.</p>
<p>Yes, I also suspect a ■■■■■. But assuming that it isn’t a ■■■■■, my comment remains true. The kid knew that recruitment began earlier this year. No brainer. BUT, in any house if one is out of the country or out of commission, and communicates this (with verificiation) they are ok. </p>
<p>As to how I know that the kid knew about recruitment: the answer is simple. IF she is in a house with that many sisters at a big university recruitment is serious business. (Not as true with schools where Greek life isn’t as importent or less formal.) Recruitment discussions start in spring WAAAY before school gets out. All summer member is deluged with emails with the details of recs, clothes, schedules etc. (If a member doesn’t open any of their mail, it is their own fault.) Heck, I must have received 20 emails verifying MY hours and availability, and the rules for MY commitment to work.</p>
<p>I worked recruitment this year with other parents and alums. We too, were kept out of sight and away from the pnms. Appropriate for many reasons. We were kept in the dining room. The alums were somewhere else. And we were never allowed to talk with the girls. </p>
<p>Two hundred girls in a house? Yes, possible in some schools with quotas of 70 or more. I have heard of some schools, mainly in the south with that many members.</p>
<p>^^Interesting. Well, I have to admit that my knowledge of sorority life at the big universities south of the Mason-Dixon line is…non-existent.</p>
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<p>Greek organizations have been suspended and prosecuted for doing things that kill people, and you doubt that making someone sit in the corner, do chores, and pay a fine is true? Really?</p>
<p>It may be true that the OP is just trying to stir up anti-Greek sentiment, but the story itself is not that far-fetched.</p>
<p>What’s far-fetched is that the sorority “made” a member sit mute in a cellar. As well as the fact that a member actually let her “sisters” humiliate her like that.</p>
<p>I don’t think it’s likely a school or sorority would change their recruitment schedule last minute (1 month prior). Every girl in the sorority knows it is mandatory for them to participate in the rush and they all know when they are suppose to show up to prep (most of them time it is one week prior). D1 already told us when she has to be back this Jan.</p>
<p>We are only hearing from OP’s side of the story. There is many different work to be done prior and during the rush, some work is more pleasant than others. OP’s daughter probably got some not so glamous job because she showed up late, and it was down in the basement. During rush, it’s very rehearsed, girls are staged, it is right down to how they rotate girls in and out of conversation. It may appear spontaneous to pledges, but who they speak with, how long, topic of conversation are all very planned. Since OP’s daughter wasn’t there during the prep week, she was probably given a job that has non-speaking part.</p>
<p>If OP’s daughter felt she was being mistreated then she could choose to resign from the sorority. On the other hand, whether you live 15 min from the school or 5000 miles away, if you are required to be there to help out, then you need to be there if you want to be part of it. D1 often gets stuck in doing things for her sorority because other sisters just don’t feel like doing it or make up some stupid excuses. I would love for D1 to spend more time with us in Jan, but she is committed to run the rush this year.</p>
<p>OP’s first post…■■■■■.</p>
<p>What fries my cookies is that while there may be disagreement here and elsewhere about GLOs, but generally on this site we agree to disagree…respectfully. Ok, most of the time we are respectful. There are issues that we all agree on, even within this subject: hazing. To try and instigate trouble be it within this community regarding hazing/safety issues for example, is wrong and potentially harmful. (Harmful in that a parent, reading something here that is a lie, in any subject not just Greek life, could spring into action causing an upset to their community of school/family/friends.)</p>
<p>I strongly suspect that Cardinal Fang and I will not meet and a Greek parent meet and greet, so what? We agree to disagree on that subject. But on the subject of the well being, happiness and safety of our kids we stand united. And to cry wolf or hazing where I strongly suspect didn’t happen is wrong.</p>
<p>True, and the OPs D needs to stick up for herself also. Compromise…get out of the basement find a compromise.</p>
<p>Formal recruitment schedules are set a year ahead, especially in a large school with “formal/frills” recruitment. And yes, everything is planned from the water (flavored or not) to the breath mints. IF the OP’s daughter exists, I believe that her veracity is in question.</p>
<p>On further consideration, I agree with ellebud. Either the OP is ■■■■■■■■ or she is not fully informed of the whole situation and for that reason is describing it in a misleading way.</p>
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<p>I agree. Perhaps she wasn’t totally honest to her mother about exactly when the rush schedule was made available to the actives. NOT that it would justify the behavior of those in charge of rush, but I would wonder if that part was also being embellished as well.</p>
<p>We’d all like to think that college kids wouldn’t make a girl sit in the corner of a basement, and that no college kid would put up with such a punishment. </p>
<p>But, well . . . </p>
<p>[The</a> Stanford Prison Experiment: A Simulation Study of the Psychology of Imprisonment](<a href=“http://www.prisonexp.org/]The”>http://www.prisonexp.org/)</p>
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<p>The Stanford prisoner experiment was supposed to run two weeks, but was shut down after six days because the prisoners playing “guard” were getting more and more abusive to the students playing “prisoner.” </p>
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<p>I’m sure the kids in that experiment were “good kids” . . . until they weren’t. Sadly, I don’t find it at all hard to believe that a few vocal leaders in a sorority could lead the kids to act this way, and convince the humiliated “sister” to accept it.</p>
<p>There’s a reason for the saying “One rotten apple spoils the whole barrel.”</p>
<p>I smell a ■■■■■. The OP have not responded to any posts or questions raised here. It is his/her first post//////</p>