<p>so i saw a newsweek magazine which i never read yesterday and it was like a "college" edition with all of these articles about admissions and schools et cetera. there was one article entitled something like "safety no more." the article was about a kid who was valedictorian (big deal) and got rejected from harvard and yale. then, through the "insistance of a family friend," enrolled at Cornell, which was his "safety school, and had an acceptance rate of "almost 30 %." then blah blah blah he found out he was happy there some stupid pun about a t-shirt i don't know. and the point was that "safety schools" are like no more or something.</p>
<p>but huh??? Cornell is a safety for NO ONE. that was a joke. come on. i mean during a time when state schools like UF, UT and UVA are rejecting their own residents, NOTHING is a safety school, ESPECIALLY an IVY LEAGUE SCHOOL. yes it's acceptance rate is higher than yale maybe but it's NOT 30%. i believe it was 27 last year or something. that's like saying that Princeton's and harvard's and yale's was 15%. or dartmouth's was 25. i mean that was just silly. but then, it was portrayed as a safety school??? what is that? obviously the only person who thought this was the student and the writer of the article, who clearly don't know the first thing about college admissions. but still. now other people will read that and think Cornell is a safety?? i mean HAH. if they apply to Cornell thinking that, they WILL be rejected.</p>
<p>and ps - this whole newsweek college edition thing also claimed that BC was a "new ivy".....HA HA HA. get real. this girl who goes to bc goes to me oh yea didn't you hear, bc is a new ivy it's amazing. im likke oh shut up you snotty little harlot.</p>
<p>bc's great, but you know what i'm saying. the ivy league is a sports conference. that doesn't make any sense. there are schools comparable to those in the ivy league like MIT, Chicago, et cetera but the name "Ivy League" is just a sports conference. and yea, further...BC is NOT UChicago (which was not on the list....instead RPI and like URochester were...it didn't make sense).</p>
<p>bottom line, the magazine was absurd. and anyone who reads it knowing nothing about college admissions will be sorely misinformed afterward.</p>
<p>yea i'm not saying that Cornell isn't a good "match" for some people who are great, like i'm sure that you are, but it's obviously not a guarantee for anyone and certainly not a safety. i mean on another note, people get rejected from Cornell who get into yale for example. it's just how the college sees you fitting in with their environment.</p>
<p>Haha, Sametwochords, I meant that Cornell isn't safe enough for me to consider a good match, which is why I want to laugh when people say that I'll probably get in.</p>
<p>I hate it when people say Cornell is their safety!! It's the hardest Ivy to get out of!!!
This girl came up to me and told me that Cornell was her safety and I wanted so badly to kick her in her ugly face</p>
<p>oh haha myarmin, i was confused....we want you to get in though!!! good luck :)</p>
<p>sillyrabbit: hah that girl was obviously dumb. as i said before, when a STATE SCHOOL rejects people with good grades and good scores, NOTHING is a safety, especially not an IVY LEAGUE SCHOOL, among the most selective in the world. i mean that's just silly, silly rabbit. hahaha. but yea that's just dumb, watch her not get in. nothing is a guarantee.</p>
<p>well since cornell is now a half-state/half private school, NY legislation has forced admissions to accept more NY residents than they normally would, thereby increasing acceptance rates in one aspect.</p>
<p>also, admissions really depends on what college you want to attend. cornell engineering is world class, therefore you need to be extremely competitive if applying for that. but with the college of arts and sciences they can be more flexible.</p>
<p>cornell is very competitive, but it's also very unpredictable in my opinion. actually, in my opinion the most unpredictable school is harvard, but i think cornell is too. </p>
<p>just look at the statistics from UsNews:</p>
<p>Out-of-state students: 61% (huge in-state acceptance rate for an ivy league)</p>
<p>total undergraduate body for 2006: 13,515 (VERY HUGE student body for an ivy league)</p>
<p>so as you can see, ever since cornell became partially state funded, it has been under the influence of state legislation and thus has affected admissions.</p>
<p>haha i was reading the exact same article in news week. and i was thinking th exact thing. CU is safety for no one. haha. he's crazy...the doood.</p>
<p>huh? CAS has one of the lowest acceptance rates...</p>
<p>and Cornell has always been funded by the state, as many school are, but recently, they have done the reverse of what you are talking about, whereby they do NOT give greater preference to state students. they used to do that, but no longer. </p>
<p>and also, the 61 % is not an "acceptance rate" obviously, it's just how many kids from New York go to Cornell. at Harvard it's like 85 and MA is TINNNNY. New York is huge. Yes it is disproportional, but the state sizes are also very different.</p>
<p>the student body, i mean, i don't see how this relates to anything.</p>
<p>anyhow, the contract colleges really have little to do with anything. the state legislation can no longer affect admissions. perhaps the disparity of in-state vs. out-of-state is because of many transfer agreements with CCs in New York. but regardless, this has no impact on students applying as freshen from across the globe. if anything, it makes it more difficult because these spots are already accounted for (the transfer ones). that's just my supposition though. </p>
<p>bottom line, again, no school but moreover no Ivy League school is a safety for anyone.</p>
<p>and you also have to take into account the number of highly qualified new york state residents who could be admitted to CAS, AAP, engineering etc. and instead choose to apply to a contract college for various reasons...</p>