<p>LOL.</p>
<p>Oh and I applaud ivyleaguer. Someone had to say it.</p>
<p>yeah, holler ivyleager, u really went gangsta on Alexandre about Michigan. We have to face the facts and say that Michigan is a safety.</p>
<p>Plus, Duke is off the hizzy. But Cornell, ehhh, more like playing and losing miserably at a game of hangman if I went there. *cough *cough cliffs.</p>
<p>I'm from California and will be attending Rice this coming fall, as is one other girl from my school (top public in LA County) and one of my future roommates, who's from the LA area. The LA area sends a lot of people to Rice. In my eyes, Rice is as good as the Ivys. Afterall, Rice is the "Harvard of Texas."</p>
<p>Humm, this thread is truly hilarious. The only thing worse than the US News rankings is actually debating about the ranking. </p>
<p>As far as criticizing Alexandre for his light bias for Michigan and Cornell, we should also recognize that he TRIES to justify his choices with facts. On the hand, a number of people who post list offer very little. Obviously, it is hard to find much logic is an otherwise very subjective exercise. </p>
<p>No matter how you look at it, we have to admit that we look at any list and check how it fits our own individual taste and opinion. For instance, I would never think Cornell is in the same league as Columbia or Dartmouth, simply because Cornell rate of admission is a very high. In the same vein, a ranking that lists Penn above Stanford and shows Duke in fifth position ought to be considered highly suspect. However, we all look at the criteria that appeal to us. For some the peer assesment is important, for others the rate of admissions is the guiding light. </p>
<p>Nobody is wrong or right, it is all a matter of personal interpretation. I happen to think that Slipper's list is inconsistent but does it matter to anyone?</p>
<p>how about Rice is the "Only School of Texas."</p>
<p>just kidding, baylors mad legit too dude.</p>
<p>Ok, I'll have to agree that Dartmouth isn't as prestigious as Columbia. It just isn't. I study in California and live somewhere in the west (not California). Suffice it to say, Columbia is much more well-known here than Dartmouth.</p>
<p>And although Rice may be a good school, it isn't known as ultimately prestigious in California or in the West either. It just isn't as well-known, as are many universities in the South it seems. (Just my observations.) </p>
<p>And also U Penn isn't as prestigious as Stanford, partly because it has only ranked this high for the past few years or so. It just doesn't have the "name recognition" going on. I'll have to admit before I applied to colleges, I didn't even realize U Penn was a great university.</p>
<p>After I took my PSATs, they sent me brochures etc. for U Penn and i was like hmmm.. U Penn? What's that...haha.</p>
<p>Of course its fame shall we say doesn't necessarily mean that that school is the best or whatnot. They just might be older institutions, etc.</p>
<p>um.. to add to that...when i got into Rice interum, i told my 2 older siblings, and they were like thats a good school i think, where is it again?</p>
<p>Both go to top 25 schools.</p>
<p>That's a solid point, Collegekid, or should I say...bball87? :) OR should I say ivytoivy? A few people on CC have alerted me that there are VERY distinct similarities among all three of you. </p>
<p>....Well?</p>
<p>i had a feeling he was bball87. Both of them talk too much.</p>
<p>if they don't know where Rice is/ if you didn't know what Penn was; then you both don't know too much about colleges</p>
<p>who is bball87, i reallly am being serious, i have never been another sn besides collegekid. Ivytoivy, who is that...i am serious.</p>
<p>Josh--au contraire. (I think that's it--and if it isn't, I took Espanol.) U Penn has only recently become this prestigious. </p>
<p>And about not knowing exactly where Rice is, maybe it's some kind of general ignorance that the rest of America has with schools in the South......</p>
<p>It seems that only Southerners, or Texans to be precise, really want to go to Rice. Why?</p>
<p>How about a preferred universities list by region?</p>
<p>NORTHEAST (alphabetic order)</p>
<p>Columbia
Harvard
Princeton
Yale</p>
<p>SOUTHEAST</p>
<p>Duke
Georgetown
Virginia
William & Mary</p>
<p>WEST</p>
<p>Berkeley
Chicago
Stanford</p>
<p>about Rice...it is just not popular outside of Texas, nothing wrong with it. Half of the class comes from Texas and more than 50 percent of the applicants are from texas. A lot of ppl are just relunctant to go to texas for school.</p>
<p>in the US news Report what do the different tiers mean?</p>
<p>Rice is a fantastic school and I don't see how anyone can say otherwise. Unlike all of the other elite privates, Rice uses its endowment to maintain a low tuition which is only one of the school's great aspects. Stanford also has 44% of its students coming from California but that doesn't mean people don't go to Stanford because it is in California. California and Texas are usually among the 5 most represented states on any elite campus and therefore, any elite school in either of those states will have a huge contingent from that state. </p>
<p>Just as Zipzoopzabulous stated, it is fairly recently that UPenn has become so prestigious. Long regarded as the safety ivy and a school that had 50% acceptance rates, Penn has come a long way. However, regardless of what USNews says, I do not believe that UPenn/Duke are as good as or better than Stanford or MIT.</p>
<p>SouthernBoy i dont agree with your ranking at all. Berkeley and Chicago are more prefered in the West than HYP??? are you kidding. i doubt any west coast person would give up yale for chicago(though chicago is underrated). Same for down south, HYPS are much bigger down there than the state schools that many of them attend or than duke. i really dont understand what you are ranking but its not preference by region at all</p>
<p>stanmaster, that is a prettty "biased" and ignorent comment of you. </p>
<p>"i doubt any west coast person would give up yale for chicago(though chicago is underrated)."</p>
<p>I am sure that there are definetely a few ppl at Chicago that turned down Yale.
Some for financial reasons and others for different reasons, location, being closer to family members, getting one of chicago's full merit scholarships. You should not make blanket assumptions like that. If you really want to see something that ppl on these boards WOULD NOT EXPECT, go look at Duke or Northwestern athletic profiles of their athletes of many different sports and you will see in these profiles the schools these kids turned down to play for these schools. Harvard, stanford, princeton were turned down mannnnny times for full sports rides at Duke and Northwestern.</p>
<p>Why is it understandable to turn down HYPSM for Chicago while it is "weird" to do the same for Duke or NU? :confused:</p>
<p>EDIT: Nice editing to cover yourself.</p>
<p>Stanmaster, let me clarify. I'm ranking by most academically prestigious in a given region. Sure, most people will choose the Northeastern schools over other regions.</p>