<p>UCR may not have the best social or academic environment or location wise compared to the other UCs but it still shouldn't be overlooked. UCR continues to improve up in the rankings and would be a powerhouse sometime in the future with the development of UC Merced. Admissions to UCR will be getting harder and will take MORE than the minimun requirements to get into UCR. Class of 2006 is the last class that has the minimun gpa requirement to apply at 2.8. UC enforced a new policy and raised the minimun gpa for incoming freshmens of class of 2007. I predict that Riverside will make the top50 colleges list by 2010.
UCR guarantees 25 spots for the UCLA/UCR Thomas Haider grad school which is another BIG PLUS about UCR. </p>
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Pre-Med and Pre-Health Offerings at UCR</p>
<p>UCR offers a clear pathway if you aspire to go to medical school or study for a career in the health professions.</p>
<p>Medicine - Allopathic
Osteopathic
Dentistry
Pharmacy<br>
Optometry
Veterinary Medicine
Biomedical Research
Public Health<br>
Physical Therapy
Nursing Allied Health
Physician Assistant **</p>
<p>UCR is a good choice to pick if you are interested in the following occupation outlooks. </p>
<p>I got into UC Davis, UC Santa Cruz, UC Riverside, and UC Merced and I am contemplating on whether to go to Riverside or Davis. </p>
<p>UCR provides a BRIGHT OPTIMISTIC future for their undergrad students. Education at UCR is not that quite bad as it seems to be.</p>
<p>The UCR/UCLA Thomas Haider Program in Biomedical Sciences provides a unique path to UCLAs David Geffen School of Medicine where 24 seats each year are reserved exclusively for UC Riverside students.</p>
<p>The UCR campus has had a 30-year affiliation with one of the nations leading medical schools through the UCR/UCLA Thomas Haider Program in Biomedical Sciences. Students from any UCR major may apply for one of 24 seats each year. Students admitted to the medical school phase of the program attend UCR for the first two years of medical school and complete their medical training at the UCLA David Geffen School of Medicine. Because the class sizes are small, UCR students receive personalized attention and academic/career advising from both university faculty and clinical faculty from the surrounding community.</p>
<p>For pre med, you should go to UCSD or UCDavis. They are both pretty good. My personally choice would be UCSD because its not near Southern California and its not too far away. So your parents can't tell you to come home every weekend.</p>
<p>It's a bit like that scene from the movie "Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle."
--They pull up to a drive-thru thinking that it is a White Castle, only to find that another fast-food place has replaced it. When they remind their waiter that it used to be a White Castle, he reacts violently, yelling "%%$%$, I wanna burn this mother-****er down."
That, my friends, is exactly how you will feel if you go to UC Riverside.</p>
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Actually, I disagree. UCR <em>IS</em> a dumpster school. And about the rankings...you got it backwards. Each year, UCR's ranking drops lower and lower. I'm not sure where you got this crazy idea that Riverside was up and coming. In fact, if there WAS any extra funding in UC, I would expect it to go to Merced, which they just opened. Oh, and last thing - going to UCR hurts your chances of getting into grad schools. Competitive grad schools look for applicants coming from "colleges with a name"...not the ampit of the UC system. Don't worry, because 1 in 8 freshmen leaves UCR after a year -- maybe u can leave too.
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<p>Care to cite a source? Also, if you do well at UCR, you can go places. Sure, they aren't taking a huge cut of people, as grad and professional schools might from top schools, but if you excell at UCR, you will be fine. Doesn't the highest percentage of uc students to seek advanced degrees come from UCRs? I have a friend who started in UCSD engineering then went to UCR psych and then to the best psych program in his field in the nation for his PhD which he started this past fall. He is not the norm, but it shows that it's possible to go from UCR to good places. Someone from UCR is in Harvard law. Many go to medical school and law school afterwords, some top places in the field. Many "competitive grad schools" care more about what you did than where you go. Really, they fill their classes with good students from the very top schools and the top students from lesser schools, and many people considering UCR are probably not in the position to attend the "top" schools, and if they did, who knows if they would excell there in such a way to be in that cut?</p>
<p>Yeah, you're right, those that go into medical school, law school, business school, graduate school, go into politics, business, whatever, if they happened to go to UCR, they fail at life. Poet Laureaute Billy Collins, the highest distinction other than Nobel Prize- failure- UCR alum. If only he went to Harvard! If only my friend at the best psych graduate program in his field went to some other school. Even Irvine! If only that person at Harvard law went to some other place. If only that chemistry Nobel winner this year didn't go to UCR 30 years ago. What failures!</p>
<p>All I'm saying is that UCR can lead to great things. It's generally up to the students to get there.</p>
<p>I 100% agree with DRAB that it's up to each individual student when it comes to achievement. That's EXACTLY why you see anecdotal reports of UCR students going on to become med students, law students, and other grad students, sometimes in top programs. ....but ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL, take that same otherwise high-achieving student, and UCR HURTS YOU. </p>
<p>Do you think a 3.7 GPA at UCR is weighted the same as a GPA of 3.7 from UC Berkeley, when you're applying to med school!? News flash: it's NOT. Students from UCR are "scaled down" because of the admissions committee KNOWS that the standards at UCR are a lot lower than at Berkeley. Take an intelligent and highly-motivated student and put him through UCR -- he will still do well, but will his full potential be reached? Would a UCR student who got into UCSD med maybe have gotten into Harvard med, had he gone to Berkeley instead? The fact is, distinguished grad schools look for undergrad applicants from top schools for many reaons, and this is well-known: 1) it makes their LIST of grad students look better when they can fill it with TOP schools, and 2) faculty and admissions committee members also came from TOP schools, and they tend to be very familiar with ppl who wrote letters of rec or they may give preference to students from their alma mater. That's just how it works. </p>
<p>Finally, being surrounded by a sea of unmotivated and unintelligent students actually hurts you, because your own level of motivation and IQ suffers in unison. Your own standards of what constitutes "high achievement" drops. </p>
<p>Going to UCR won't prevent you from getting into grad school if you were intelligent and motivated to begin with, but it certainly hinders your ability to reach your full potential.</p>
<p>Do you have any evidence to substantiate your claims? You claim some pretty particular things, can you prove them with some sort of charts that admissions committeesuse or something? What about the difficulty of getting a 3.7 at UCR vs. say Berkeley? I agree with your third paragraph, but there are a lot of factors at play. I bet some students would do better at UCR than at some place consider a much better school, say Swarthmore or MIT, maybe even the atmosphere of a place like Harvard would cause people in some ways to do worse. Many of your points I agree with, but some claims you have to back up, at least with something.</p>
<p>You don't have to provide squat to me, you're right. Asking for any sort of proof doesn't mean you're submitting something to a scientific journal. It just means you have some reason to believe what you're saying beyond "I heard this from people and sorta saw a bit of it myself." What you said in this last post is your justification for believing what you're saying, and that's all I was asking for. Was that so hard?</p>
<p>Must I point out the students who get into UCLA Med every year throught the Thomas Haider program? Is that merely a yearly exception? If it's yearly, it's no exception. And again, at the end of your post, you delve into insulting me. That's good, whatever makes you feel better. But really, you don't have to be childish like that, and in every post get something negative in about me. </p>
<p>Do you have any UCR medical applicant statistics on the internet? That way, you could compare them to something else, and see how the numbers seem to be looked at by adcoms to various schools.</p>
<p>I have already explained to you in a different post why I am not going to rummage through the internet to do YOUR homework for you. If you want to verify my information, do it with your own time. </p>
<p>Obviously I'm familiar with the UCR/UCLA program. I should probably clarify and say that those that are not accepted do not fare well with medschool admissions. Look at MDApplicants.com, which has been posted several times in multiple threads already (this is what I mean by you need to do your own research rather than demand that I waste my time providing you with a URL). My original point, however, was that going to UCR hurts you when you're applying for grad school, and I stand behind it. Special little medical programs are an exception, and even so, the UCR/UCLA program forces you to take HALF your medschool classes at UC Riverside, in the basement of the Stats building and in a portable trailer. ...and once UCR gets its medschool established, you ain't going to UCLA anymore. </p>
<p>With retard to the insults, I just tell it as it is. If you have reasonable responses that don't require me to spell out what should already be patently obvious, then I'm a pretty civil person.</p>
<p>I'm not asking you to do my homework for me. I'm saying support your claims. Feel free not to, it just weakens your argument. I question your civility primarily because of your tone, but your insults are another reason. You claim that once UCR (really, if UCR) gets a medical school, the Haider program won't exist any longer. Now, if I were to say, you base this one what? You would say, that's not a counter argument. You claim something on speculation, and then say I can't provide a counter argument. I speculate that you're wrong. There. Is this argument then a wash? </p>
<p>When you say "UCR hurts you when applying to grad school" (and by that I suspect you mean graduate and professional schools), i ask, relative to what? If it really hurts you, how do you explain people who quite well out it? In this regard, does a place like UCI or UCSC help you, or "hurt you" less than UCR? Are you basically considering medical school only, or what?</p>
<p>in case you guys want an opinion from a third party, i say drab wins. his views are less bias and more persuasive. i think i just have too much time...</p>
<p>a bs/ba from riverside is much better than a high school degree -_-' most high school grads earn about 16k on average while riverside grads earn (i'm guessing) about 40k.</p>
<p>Drab didn't really make any good points, to be honest, although I can see how UCRiverbed really ****ed people off too. Might wanna check out the Wikipedia article on UC Riverside. A lot of the stuff there is referenced.</p>
<p>You wouldn't happen to be UCRiverbed, now, would you ,nineonine909? Your birthdays are remarkably close together, and your manner fairly similar.</p>
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I have already explained to you in a different post why I am not going to rummage through the internet to do YOUR homework for you. If you want to verify my information, do it with your own time.
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<p>Umm...it's YOUR job to back up YOUR claims. It's not ours. Get it straight. </p>
<p>If you write a paper in a class, and then put a footnote that says, "Dear. Prof. Stinkypants, look for this info on your own time!" how do you think you'll fare?</p>