<p>When I was in orientation, they told us that they chose us based on high math/science scores in both our classes and SAT’s, as well as looking at the difficulty of those classes. They said that they did not really look at our essays.</p>
<p>@WhiteFlag</p>
<p>Interesting. I didn’t hear that at my orientation. Do you mean that Prof. Wesel said that in his talk?</p>
<p>The other possibility is that they’re simply being insincere.</p>
<p>Samueli made up all their decisions early and began complimenting all their acceptees in hopes of flattering them so they could commit to their school. It’s altogether very common amongst colleges. Since its an Open House, I question whether they would actually **not ** invite anyone who made it into the school.</p>
<p>A lot of the scores posted in this thread are just average for engineering students. I don’t consider something like 2100 to be high for this particular school.</p>
<p>I got one as well. Five or so of my friends who applied for the UCLA Engineering program didn’t, however. One interesting thing to note is that while looking at this topic, I’m surprised they didn’t get it considering that one of my friends had 2050 SATs, a 800 Math Level 2, 780 Phys, 750 Chem, and decent GPA (for our school).</p>
<p>I currently go to an international private school. Our schools average GPA for people who are admitted into UCLA is currently 3.95 or so (according to Naviance).</p>
<p>My stats:
SATI : 2150 (800 Math, 700 Verbal)
SATII: 800 Math Level 2, 800 Chem, 800 Phys, 780 Mandarin
GPA: 3.93</p>
<p>Hope this helps. Good luck everyone!</p>
<p>I got one as well, but my stats are horrible compared to you guys.</p>
<p>ACT: 26 (E: 21, R: 24, S: 26, M: 33)
SAT II: 770 Chinese, 670 Physics, 650 Bio M, 770 Math II
UC GPA: 4.29
Unweighted: 3.97
EC: Average
Essay: Wrote how I created the robotics club and how it changed my life</p>
<p>Applied Major: Electrical Engineering</p>
<p>also curious - if you don’t get the email, does that mean you’re not in? :(</p>
<p>If you don’t get the email, doesn’t mean you’re not in. On the flip side, I got one four years ago (for fall 2006) and I haven’t heard of anyone who got a letter and wasn’t in. </p>
<p>@Rousse54 I thought the same thing about Cal, too close to home, but I wish I had given it a closer look. I’d encourage your son to give UCLA a real shot, just for his own sake later on. Go with the gut though!</p>
<p>Hmm I have received this email too, but I thought my chances were very slim.</p>
<p>With only:</p>
<p>4.05 weighted GPA
Top 4% ELC
1860 SAT (710 Math + 520 Reading + 630 writing)
730 Chemistry SATII
650 MathII
Unique Essay</p>
<p>major: Chemical Engineering</p>
<p>I guess we will see in 3 weeks…</p>
<p>Deuces: What was/is your major at UCLA? His will be aerospace engineering. He likes UCLA, gee, who wouldn’t, but he is way too familiar with it… I think that is the problem. There is no mystery there! His father went there on a wrestling scholarship many years ago, and I went there for graduate school. Since he was small he has been attending UCLA football games at the Rose Bowl since we have seasons tickets. Also, he wants the experience of living somewhere else and somewhere different, which we totally understand. Right now he wants to attend the University of Colorado at Boulder. It has a great aerospace engineering program, has about 400 undergraduates in the program as compared to UCLA where the department is much smaller, it is ranked by USNews the same as UCLA, and has great contacts and accesss with NASA, which is what he eventually wants to do. Plus it has a five year program concurrent with the bachelors program to get a masters. (Boulder is currently 12th in the country for aerospace engineering for public institutions, 16th when considering all institutions). The only problem being it is very expensive out of state! So it will be rough for us!<br>
What could you tell us about the engineering department at UCLA and if you know anyone in the aerospace engineering program, what would they say? We all will be attending the open house so you never know. I am sure he will keep an open mind…</p>
<p>Does anyone know if UCLA is strong in Engineering Physics?
I know that Cal and UCSD has Engineering Physics but not sure about UCLA - haven’t been able to find it online.</p>
<p>I’m a bioengineering major (fourth year) but looking at career options in high tech (silicon valley stuff) and some consulting. I’m staying an extra quarter in the fall to recruit for jobs again even though I can graduate with only one more class in the spring. </p>
<p>As far as aerospace, there’s a strong community here with the nearby aerospace companies - Raytheon sticks out the most in mind, but the jet propulsion lab (JPL), lockheed martin, SpaceX and other companies recruit here as well. MadeinChina and I are currently taking a systems engineering elective course with Peter Pao (former CTO of Raytheon) and a lot of his systems engineering colleagues. I’m not super in touch with the type of curriculum they get so I can’t help too much there. The one thing I do know though, is that the CS department has really been the shining star, with notable faculty like Carey Nachenberg (Symantec’s Chief Architect; nanotechnology developments alongside CNSI in mat sci, bioeng, and other departments are always happening and are pretty cool too). </p>
<p>Another sidenote: a good friend of mine is working with JPL or a sister corp in Louisiana/Georgia in the fall full-time.</p>
<p>Okay, here’s a wild new possibility.</p>
<p>Samueli is flattering you guys. They’ve made all their admissions decisions already and they aren’t necessarily impressed with everyone they sent the “likely letter” to. What they meant by “impressed” is that they were impressed enough to admit you into the school. That’s why some people with low scores received the letters while others above the curve didn’t. As I’ve said before, it’s unlikely they wouldn’t invite anyone who made it to “Open House”.</p>
<p>Everyone who didn’t receive the letter that applied to Samueli is rejected.</p>
<p>Now can anyone prove this hypothesis wrong? Is there anyone who’s not received the “likely letter” that made it into Samueli?</p>
<p>That would suck, I thought UCs considered freshman as “undeclared” in a sense anyway. People kept saying how your major wouldn’t influence whether you get in or not. wth</p>
<p>^^ whaaaaaaaaaat?
i dont really understand what you are saying? if the letter is an indicator of rejection, that means that if u got it ur rejected? but then you say if you got it ur in? so i dont really understand what you are saying.
anyways, i dont care if they are impressed… only if i got in or not…
BTW i got the letter too and here are my stats:</p>
<p>SAT: 2100 (M 710 CR 650 W 740)
ACT: 32 (Math 34…)
SAT II: M2 790 Chem 750
GPA: 3.95 UW 4.8ish W</p>
<p>No. He’s saying that if you didn’t get a letter, you’re probably not admitted. He holds that everyone admitted to engineering would have the opportunity to go to the “Open House”-- not just the one’s that were “impressive” (which would explain why not all students who received letter have high scores).</p>
<p>Not sure if I agree with his reasoning, but it’s possible.</p>
<p>^ I believe he’s trying to say that if you applied to the school of engineering and got this then you are in. If you applied but did <em>not</em> get it, then you are rejected. Which is why I was saying it would suck to mean that there are essentially “likely rejection” letters that come out as well as these likely letters.</p>
<p>i doubt they’ll do that… before decisions are released… people who havent gottne the letter still stand a chance, and peolpe who have received the letter might sitll get rejected if something bad happens.</p>
<p>
That is untrue. I don’t know where you got this impression. This is how the university system works:</p>
<p>1) A university is divided into a number of colleges. Each college is an umbrella for a number of majors. At UCLA, some of these are Geffen, Samueli, Anderson, etc.
2) A person who applies to the college is reviewed by that college’s admissions officers. There is no general admissions reviewers. By this, I mean there is no admission officer that can offer you the choice to any one of the UCLA undergraduate colleges.
3) Once you are admitted into a college, you can change majors, but only within your specific college. In many instances, students can’t even cross enroll in courses offered at the university from a different college. For example, I’m enrolled in the College of Letters and Sciences. I cannot enroll into a class offered by Samueli.
4) If you want to switch majors offered across different colleges, you literally have to reapply to UCLA.</p>
<p>Again, this is true for every university and not just UCLA. Most universities have a “College of Letters and Sciences” for all general majors. This is the easiest college to be admitted into. Applying for any specialty college or one that doubles up as both a graduate and undergraduate college can be significantly more difficult. For example, I know UCLA School of Dentistry, the best dentist school in the nation, has an admittance rate of ~3% (However, that is an exclusively graduate college. The best example at UCLA is Samueli. Admittance to Samueli is more difficult than at the College of Letters and Sciences. At Berkeley, the best example is Haas.)</p>
<p>The “decisions” deadline really does not apply to specific colleges. Once you go to a university, you will discover that colleges for things such as Law and Engineering are practically autonomous from the College of Letters and Science (or the general college). Samueli can do what it wants. Anderson can do what it wants. etc. etc. Often, in academic papers, people even refer to the individual colleges instead of naming the University as a whole. For example, the headline of a Businessweek Article names, ‘Wharton’, ‘Haas’, ‘Marshall’, ‘Anderson’, ‘Sloan’, etc. Their respective universities do not receive much mention.</p>
<p>That does make sense now that I look at it. But I got the idea of being “undeclared” from things like this (from ask ms sun’s site)
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<p>I must have misinterpreted or overlooked some important details though, sorry</p>
<p>FYI: If you applied for Engineering and do not get into Engineering, you don’t get into UCLA. It doesn’t matter if you have an alternate major. This is per admissions - maybe someone gave us the wrong information.</p>