<p>Everything happens for a reason… people are so angry about this. whoever you are just chill out. If it is not this school, there will be another school. God has a plan for everyone. Love all and love your enemies.</p>
<p>Overpower, what was your GPA? and to what major did you apply?</p>
<p>Also, this is a single-sitting SAT, correct? </p>
<p>My D got rejected by Yale, she is not sitting around complaining about it. She moved on. Committed to UCSB and recruited on Track Team. Best of both worlds. My brother is a professor for Chem E in East Coast and he said UCSB has top notch Chem and Chem E program. She will enjoy her studies and being a student athlete. She worked hard on both the last several years. She gets priority reg, housing, advisor for being an athlete but she got in based on her own academic achievements. see my previous stats. Good luck to all. remember God has a plan for everyone. Where ever you end up will be a good fit. Just trust God.</p>
<p>I think this thread got off track when the poster said ‘white male’, but I totally empathize with the situation. I had a similar experience 4 years ago. We had a rude awakening to the uc admit process. My thoughts then - how can my wonderful, smart (lol) child be top 5% in CA, top 2% in the country and not get in the top CA public universities? We thought UCD was the lowest he would end up at and it turned out it was the top and
only after getting in off the waitlist. Well, it comes down to this: there are more kids in that top group than there are spots! So they have tried to accomodate the students by opening another UC campus - which I think is wrong for people to turn their noses up at. And because of funding, they have had to admit more OOS.</p>
<p>To @cdanny - I personally don’t think an appeal will get you anything. I don’t know if you have mentioned,
but if your child did apply to engineering with a 2000 SAT, then the mid UCs are his reaches and the lower UCs are matches and it sounds like he didn"t even apply to them. I think you didn’t do enough research ahead of time. And what about state schools like SJSU? It has a great engineering rep.
btw, we tried to do better applying this time with my daughter (not applying to impacted majors, taking the ACT as well as the SAT, etc). She is having a better admit ratio which is much better on the self esteem. She didn"t get in one match and probably won’t get in her 3 reaches, but we added more safeties and she has some
good schools to pick from. Good luck to you.</p>
<p>@jbourne I agree that that is where the conversation got off track. The policy question about tax payers and infrastructure use is a different one, as well, however people in other states think the same about their state schools, and given the situation is what it is, my sons did apply to a few other flagships, knowing we couldn’t depend on the UCs absolutely, things being as they are. Some states like Texas have reacted to that with policy changes, but we are just dealing with the hand being dealt, as are all the other students, in state and out of state. </p>
<p>I didn’t realize from @cdanny 's first post that her son got into no UCs, I was thinking it was a luck of the draw event at one school, and since UCSB, of ALL the UCs lets you know up front that academic record no matter what it is only counts for half of the mix with them, I thought it was misdirected. And didn’t like a kid who got in with hardships being singled out, honestly. </p>
<p>I have to say if my kid had those stats and got into NO UC I’d be pretty pissed, but I also see another possibility where UCSB is concerned. They put out in their common data set that they DO look at interest in the school as one of the factors they consider, although not as much as some other factors. With stats that high if your son didn’t go on a tour or show interest in some way, it is possible they thought he might be aimed at Berkeley or UCLA - unless he was going for ChemE or one of the other programs where they are significantly stronger than the others (they are behind Berkeley in ChemE but far ahead of UCLA, for example, each campus has its strength in various programs.) UCSB has 80,000+ applications and likes to pick people who actually want to be there, and they let you know that in their materials.</p>
<p>I hope your son gets in at UCLA and/or San Diego, and this has a happy ending. </p>
<p>@Jbourne and @collegevetting Great points! I agree re interest. I know my daughter has wanted to attend UCSB since 7th grade and she definitely talked about that in one of her essays. Figured it couldn’t hurt to let them know they were her top choice. She also worked very hard over the years and got the grades and test scores to accomplish that goal. </p>
<p>D was accepted into UCB & UCSB ChemE program. As a non competitive learner, she would choose UCSB over UCB. I feel the same. The small engineering dept. is a big plus. The kids are likely to graduate within 4 years or 5 with a graduate degree.</p>
<p>Decision: Rejected
GPA: 3.7
SAT: 1950
Female asian (Mixed race)
International
Good essays and lots of ECs including national awards</p>
<p>No idea what went wrong, my friend with a lower SAT (low 1700s) got in and I didn’t :(</p>
<p>Decision: Accepted for Pre-Economics</p>
<p>Objective:[ul]
SAT I (breakdown): 2050 (620 CR, 680 Math, 750 Writing)
ACT: Didn’t take it
SAT II: None
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.6
UC GPA: 3.73 (I only took 2 APs by the end of junior year, which is why my UC GPA isn’t much higher than my UW GPA)
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): No idea
AP (place score in parenthesis): US History (3), Chemsitry (didn’t take exam)
Senior Year Course Load: AP Eng Lit, AP Econ, AP Psych, AP Gov, Calc regular and Physics regular
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): Wouldn’t say it’s major, but I am one of the 50,000 National Merit Scholarship Commended Students
Subjective:[list]
Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Track and Field for 3 years
Job/Work Experience: Unpaid internship at an engineering/architectural firm in Hong Kong
Volunteer/Community service: Volunteered at Chinese school for 3 years
Personal Statement: So-so I guess, I started them like 2 days before they were due
[/ul]Other[ul]
Applied for Financial Aid?: Yes, FAFSA
Intended Major: Economics
State (if domestic applicant): CA
School Type: Large school, decent ranking I believe
Ethnicity: Asian
Gender: Male
Hooks (URM, first generation college, research, etc.): Immigrant, low income
[/ul]Reflection[ul]
Strengths: SAT score, National Merit Commended Student, Internship
Weaknesses: Super low GPA, low number of AP classes taken
Why you think you were accepted: I am not really sure tbh, but I tell you that I am overjoyed to be accepted to such a fine institute
[/ul]General Comments: I hope to see many of you there </p>
<p>Edit: Alright well apparently I’m very incompetent when it comes to posting, but I hope you guys are able to read my post anyway</p>
<p>I think it comes to the personal statement and EC. Got to be honest in your personal statement because have to get in with integrity. Some people write a bogus essay and they get in with hardships etc… Trust me people will do that but God sees it. </p>
<p>mavarama…does god also say that Asians are smarter the way you do? Just wondering. That comment you made disgusted and offended me. Then you hide behind godly statements. Nice!</p>
<p>Rejected</p>
<p>gpa: 4.04
sat: 1980
major: computer science</p>
<p>appeal? </p>
<p>Hey do you guys know they are trying to bring back affirmative action? It’s in the Senate right now as we speak. The bill specifically excludes univ of ca from having to abide by the law that bans discrimination based on race. Apparently they don’t have enough freedom to manipulate who gets in. </p>
<p>Probably you should start a different thread for that. I think there are a few somewhere if you search for them.</p>
<p>I think this thread has definitely gone off topic…The lesson learned here should simply be that even good students should not take even a mid range UC for granted even if any published stats seem to make them a shoe in…They may or they may not accept you. I made my son apply two 2 rolling admissions oos flag ships just in case…Both gave him honors; one with free tuition for 4 years, one with merit that would bring down oos to instate levels. This approach reduces stress and anxiety for the kid and parents. FIND A SAFETY YOUR KID COULD LOVE should be everybody’s mantra. My son got sofar into 2 UCS but actually may choose the safety…you never know.</p>
<p>@bonbob113
Aren’t UCs a public university system too? So why would they be exempt? I never really got AA based on race, it should really be based on socioeconomic conditions. </p>
<p>Wow…I did not expect my post to be THAT controversial.I felt kinda guilty after reading through all the comments above… Anyways I did post my SAT breakdown in my previous post. If you realize it, you can see my Critical Reading and Writing have the lowest score, while the Math (also Math II) parts have almost perfect scores. It is due to my relatively brief presence within an English speaking environment. Also, I wasn’t accepted into a literature-related major. So I think it is why they care less about my test scores and put more emphasis on my personal statements. Anyways I’m very blessed to become a part of the UCSB family and I hope to see all you guys there soon!
Edit: A lot of Asian students in my high school didn’t get accepted to any of the UCs with much higher SAT scores and GPA than me so I don’t think affirmative actions actually apply to the Asian race.</p>
<p>@bonehead3535 You should not feel guilty. Many of the comments made were unfair and inappropriate. You are more than your gpa and SAT scores. Obviously you presented something(s) that made UCSB want you in their student body. You don’t have to justify your acceptance to anyone! Congrats to you. You should be proud of what you have accomplished.</p>
<p>@zacattack16
here is one article on AA.<br>
<a href=“http://diverseeducation.com/article/60479/”>http://diverseeducation.com/article/60479/</a></p>
<p>@zacattack16 actually, for this past cycle the UCs were forbidden to use race. They had in (in the view of some) proxies for it, but the fact is, those ‘proxies’ did look at socioeconomic factors. But for UCSB in particular, that is not much of a change, they have always been notably sensitive to economic hardships in their admissions. After the fact when you have in hand a yes or no, it is pretty hard to figure out why. UCSB is considered one of the ‘whitest’ campuses, though, possibly because housing at home is less possible for most (personal theory, I agree it is socioeconomic). They seem to respond to this by being the, or one of the, only UC campuses that guarantees four years of housing, so if you get aid you can get aid for that. But that kind of aid only applies to the very lowest income brackets, and for most, even if they are eligible for the Blue and Gold tuition covering package, for example, they still have to come up with housing costs. In any event, given its demographics, of all the UCs, UCSB is just the last campus where that particular argument is likely to get traction.</p>