Does anyone have a figure?
with your stats, you’re a very strong candidate.
EA stats wouldn’t tell you a thing. They don’t even get around to reading all the EA applications because they are so inundated. Last year, and I believe the year before as well, for OOS they only looked at legacy applications. The rest got deferred. It is important to understand that these deferrals were NOT based on a reading of the app and a decision that they were not good enough to be admitted EA. They were deferred because they were not even looked at. So, unless you are a legacy, and unless the admissions office has overhauled its system so that they can read every EA app and render a decision by the promised EA notification date, you will most likely be deferred.
After the EA notification date, decisions are rolling. Being an EA applicant, you will most likely still get a decision before the regular notification date.
brantly, I know of at least three students who were admitted EA from Dubai laster year, and none of them are legacies.
@brantly. What you are saying is just not true. Last year 10 kids got admitted EA from our public Midwest OOS High School. Only 1 was a legacy
Well my brother is a first year student at UMich currently, so I believe I have legacy
That is considered secondary legacy. It may not have the same weight as primary legacy from parents. However, it may suggest a higher yield that the school wants.
They admitted around 1/4 of total admission during EA that includes in state and OOS, with and without legacy. They do defer ~85% of EA applicants simply because of the size of applicant pool. In addition, it did happen a couple years ago that they could not finish reviewing all EA applications by the first round of announcement. But that was solely due to the CommonApp glitches leading to postponing the deadline for 2 weeks. There was no such problem last year.
In my daughter’s HS, where more than 3 dozen people applied EA to Michigan, as well as in surrounding high schools, not one person who was not a legacy (and the legacies included sibling legacies) got in EA. I left this out in my first post, but a few others got in who were non-legacy, but were URM. Plus, the deferral letter than my D got said that there wasn’t enough time to review all the applications. So the conclusion that the GC came to was that they put the applicants in certain “buckets” and prioritized reading the apps from certain buckets first. These definitely included legacies. This system may also have accounted for this:
Good to know. Maybe it was a regional thing. I am in the northeast.
My D was very upset when she was deferred because half the students who got in EA, who were legacies, had stats well below hers and a lot less rigor in their coursework. Then via Facebook and social networking, the kids figured out that only legacies (and URMs) got in EA. The GC confirmed the next day that that was no coincidental.
What kind of URM? Affirmative Act has been banned in Michigan for years.
By the way, there is no regular notification date as it is rolling in RD.
Ah, yes. Forgot about that. Actually, I mistyped. It was ORMs. Still, not supposed to be considered. So I guess that had nothing to do with it. Everyone was just trying to figure out why EA day was so wacky.
If someone could address another question of mine: How do I indicate that my brother is a first year student? It asks whether “a relative has attended UMich” but never asks for specifics such as relation, year, etc…I feel like my brother attending should be different than if some random uncle happened to go there…am I correct in my thinking?
“Plus, the deferral letter than my D got said that there wasn’t enough time to review all the applications” - Sorry, but this simply is not a true statement. The deferral letter said no such thing.
brantly, there is no doubt that Michigan will defer any applicant who does not show incredible commitment to Michigan. This is demonstrated by the depth of the Michigan supplements. The more elaborate and well written they are, the more interest the applicant demonstrated. This is particularly true of the second supplement, where Michigan is looking for a great deal of thought and understand about Michigan, and the articulation about what the applicant wishes to accomplish at the University. One must remember that statistically, Michigan cannot admit too many EA applicants since half the applicant pool is EA. It isn’t like ED where only 10%-20% of the applicant pool applies ED. Last year, over 25,000 of the 51,000 applicants applied EA. There is no way Michigan could admit more than 5,000-6,000 of those.
That being I said, I disagree with the notion that the admissions office did not review all the applications. I would not be surprised if for EA applicants, the university deferred many applicants based on their academic credentials (for example, and those figures are purely random, any applicant with less than a 3.7 unweighed GPA and less than a 28/1900 on the SAT is automatically deferred). Michigan’s admissions office has 25 admissions officers. They are clearly able to handle the volume of applicants, although it is admittedly a herculean task.
It wasn’t those exact words, obviously. But it was something to that effect.
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My D’s stats were well above that, as were several in her HS class who were deferred.
Anyway, maybe it was a regional thing. But the pattern was quite clear. Very high stat kids with no legacy did not get in EA. Lower stat legacies did get in EA. But it’s irrelevant for this thread because a) the OP is somewhat of a legacy with his brother currently attending, and b) My D was admitted a month later.
brantly, perhaps your daughter’s school has a poor record with Michigan. If historically, the majority of students admitted have gone elsewhere, Michigan may give priority to high-caliber students from schools that have shown more interest in Michigan. It is not unusual that your daughter was deferred since Michigan is one of the most selective universities in the country, but if virtually all non-legacy applicants from your daughter’s school were deferred, that could be the reason. Considering Michigan’s yield (46% for the last class), Michigan’s admissions office values demonstrated interest…and is good at gauging it.
^Reasonable speculations. In any case, I am not surprised to see high stat students got deferred.
Only my speculation but I do think that Admissions has been giving more credit to applicants with recent siblings at the University. If you are trying to increase yield, it would only be logical that families sending siblings to Michigan are more likely than some other random family of the same stats to send their child there.
The candidate of course still needs to be very qualified.
We are only one family but it didn’t seem to hurt my son who was admitted last Fall EA after his brother just graduated.
billcsho, the three students from Dubai who were admitted EA were high stat (40+/42 on the IB, 35 on the ACT and 1470 and 1560 on the SAT). Unfortunately, none of them ended up at Michigan (one went ED to NU, another ED to Penn and the third EA to Chicago). While I am sure Michigan defers many high stat applicants, most of the ones they admit also happen to be high stat.
Yes. There are simply too many high stat applicants that some of them may experience the Tufts syndrome.
With our school last year it was the higher stat kids who were deferred. Speaking as the parent of a lower stat kid who got in EA I can fully acknowledge that pattern. This was a total change from prior years where if you looked at who eventually got in, the highest stats came from the EA admits. It was the reverse last year. It will be interesting to see what happens this time