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Finally, the Service academies are America's academies. They are bound by law to accept a cross section of Americans from all Congressional districts in the country - that does lend itself to some disctrict being much more competitive than others - fair or not - those are the rules.

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<p>Not all the Service Academies.</p>

<p>The US Coast Guard Academy uses a merit based system without regard to Congressional districts or nominations.</p>

<p>(A recent proposal to change the process to require a MOC nomination has been proposed by Rep. Elijah Cummings.)</p>

<p>TheDay.com</a> - Merit System Best Option At The CGA</p>

<p>That is correct - the CGA is much to small to have representation from all the congressional districts in each class.
While a nomintaion is required to attend the USMMA it is not as "popular" (well known) as the "big three" and many nominations go unused.</p>

<p>The USCGA - does recognize that they are one of America's service academies and works hard to recruit and admit young Americans from all parts of the country.</p>

<p>Time out everyone!</p>

<p>Babbleon, </p>

<p>Okay, the 3 sources can have 30 noms, but now in our state the list goes out for all 5 SA's that require a nom. Add in one source that may have 2 slots available and you get ...tada 160 noms!</p>

<p>I will now explain the pres. nom a little further...Presidential appts. are not given out by state, they are also given to the top 100 applicants with the highest WCS. They are given to children of military members who have fulfilled certain requirements...i.e. time served as AD, it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CHILD. Remember many of these children are living overseas. </p>

<p>Our DS made his decision to attend ROTC (and I must admit AF, so I shouldn't be trolling here :eek: ) prior to decision being handed out (OMG back in FEB)...is he getting a full ride courtesy of the AF? Yes. Do we as a family have an amazing amount of respect for what the cadre of all of the SA's will endure during their 4 yrs? Yes. Is there the feeling of the SA's are working the system for military and legacies? NO ... absolutely NOT! These kids earned it, they deserve the appt. We all need to stand up and applaud them for the fight they endured to get it!</p>

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but where privilege is extended because your dad might be a high-ranking official or a war hero or something

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<p>BabbleOn, just so you know the kid from our town that made it on a Pres...he had no other sources, is the son of an E-7...with no war hero medals. </p>

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Also, legacies at private/public universities financed by students and parents is one thing - creating legacies based on taxpayer dollars is quite another!

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<p>Public Universities are paid through tax dollars...that is why it is harder to be accepted to a reknown state college as an OOS, b/c tax dollars are going to the college in NC, the State legislation only allows 30% of freshman admittance to be from OOS.</p>

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The reasons why kids aren't accepted can be justified any which way - but when talented, smart (based on SAT and ACT scores)

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The SA's aren't about being book smart. they need to insure that the future military leaders of the US can handle everything at one time...thus it brings us all back to the WCS, thus it is the whole candidate. It is about their physical ability to serve, it is about being able to perform time mgmt., it is about how they have shown they are a leader...being intelligent is great, but it is not the same as being able to lead</p>

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<p>Five? :confused: </p>

<p>Only 4 require noms. ;)</p>

<p>^^^ Just to clarify Public Universities do in fact receive tax dollars but those tax $$ pay for a very small percentage of the education of said students. The majority of the cost of higher education is funded through research dollars and to a lesser extent foundation money (private donation). Many faculty (at least in the sciences and engineering) are not paid with state money but are paid out of their sponsored research programs. Because there is such mis-information to the way higher ed is funded many of the state legislators have instituted policies which really are nothing more than to pacify the local constituents who have no clue as to how higher-ed is funded.</p>

<p>Luigi,</p>

<p>My bad I was thinking of the 5 SA's . My deepest apologies for my mistake!</p>

<p>I hate to be "one more voice in the chorus" but if you look at "legacies" as a percentage of the entering class, they are pretty low overall. 2011 entered with 55 sons and 16 daughters of almuni, or 5.9%. One of them was mine (shameless plug). That figure is pretty consistently in the 70's and 80's, and frankly I was surprised to see that it wasn't higher. I don't think that it's out of normal limits at all.</p>

<p>I was the "trailblazer" as the first SA attendee/grad in my family. I can tell you that my kids have a lot better perspective on USNA than I had. Why? Because they can talk to me about USNA and the Navy when things don't seem to make sense. A lot has changed since 1980 when I entered as a pretty clueless Plebe, but a lot remains the same. Having that perspective helps them deal with the BS and "roll with it". </p>

<p>They also like USNA a lot better than I did when I was "experiencing" it... ;)</p>

<p>I'd also echo from an earlier post that having a sibling there can really help. My kids definitely benefit from having each other there, as do several of their classmates who have siblings at USNA.</p>

<p>PS - Since I never finished my "20" years of active and reserve time, my kids both had to compete for congressional noms like everybody else whose parent(s) aren't Retired, AD or Active/Retired Reserve. No PNOM's for my kiddos.</p>