Waitlist

<p>listen....let me tell u something</p>

<p>sending in recs, extra stuff is useless</p>

<p>it will not do anytihng for u, waitlist is simply a pool of kids they would love to have, but don't have room</p>

<p>since the acceptance rate was sooo low, i am expectin they will go to the waitlist, thus, it becomes a match/mix game, if they want someone w. no financial aid, 1450 SAT, from west coast, who is interested in spanish, then lucky Johnny X from Washington State is chosen</p>

<p>i am telling u, i got into Emory off the waitlist last year</p>

<p>without sending in anything, not ever visiting, simply b/c they were lookin for a caucasion 1450 SAT no financial aid...i was just one kid</p>

<p>funny, when my gf asked the AAP school who is considered for the waitlist, their reply was "we sort through those who have contacted us since the decision was sent out and select from these individuals." In other words, if you dont sent stuff in and show interest, you wont be considered.</p>

<p>This might sound stupid, but I was actually quite happy to learn that I got waitlisted at Cornell. It kind of sucks because so far I've been waitlisted at 3 schools, including my dream school (Georgetown) and now Cornell too. But I feel like being waitlisted shows that you are qualified, but they just didn't have enough room in the class (which I think is 500 times better than being rejected)... also, remember how low the acceptance rate was. I wonder how many people they waitlisted (I'm guesssing quite a lot....) But here's my question... If I have significantly lower SAT scores than most of the other people who were waitlisted here, do I still have an equal chance at getting in off of the waitlist given I show a lot of interest? Thanks :)</p>

<p>bump this $h!t</p>

<p>The other person from my school who applied was also waitlisted. I was surprised, he had above a 2300 SAT, and close to 4.0 UW GPA. Also went to Cal state science fair everyear and even built and created the software for his own EKG machine. Seems like they are waitlisting a lot of people.</p>

<p>yeah , i doubt everyone who got waitlisted still has cornell as # 1choice... even though alot of people accept the list, its just a matter of checking yes on a postcard, so it doesnt mean they really want to get in...</p>

<p>if we prove to them cornell is 1 , it will def help</p>

<p>Once May 1 comes, you generally have to put $$ down on another college. You'll lose that deposit if/when Cornell comes through for you.</p>

<p>My advice -- keep in touch: be frequent, friendly and memorable!</p>

<p>seriously, i don't think it mattes</p>

<p>put this way, there has been a ton of literature on this subject</p>

<p>if ur a non-FA candidate, ur chances are much much better</p>

<p>emory only took 20 from the waitlist last year around the country, and i was one of them, i declined, but i still got it, i didn't show any interest</p>

<p>i felt bad, b/c a kid in my school ended up going to nyu, b/c he didn't get into emory he had like a (1400, but he needed FA), and i got in, but didn't go....</p>

<p>and he showed interest, visited, it doesn't do anything</p>

<p>any book or admissions counselor will tell you that you should keep in contact and show them that you still want to go</p>

<p>what your saying is one story... its kind of like an 85 year old who smoked all his life and since he didnt get cancer, that means that smoking has no side effects</p>

<p>What about needed some financial aid but not a lot. My EFC was like $30,000. Still need some FA but its not like im low income.</p>

<p>um, it is statistically proven that non-FA ppl have a better shot, and let's put things into perspective</p>

<p>cornell may have 1,000-3,000 on the waitlist</p>

<p>and they may need 100 on this list, what r the odds?</p>

<p>So what do you do if you want to show interest (Cornell is still my top choice :P )?
Just send them like a hand-written letter or something... telling that you really love them? What should you say??? (...b/c i don't want to sound to "suck-up-y"...you know)
Anyone...please help :)</p>

<p>Cornell Makes Strategic use of the waitlist
Link to Undergraduate Enrollment Trends 2006
<a href="http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000378.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000378.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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Given previous history of over-enrolling the freshman class and the need for disciplined enrollment targets to accommodate the then new North Campus Residential Initiative, the above plan was initially presented to each of the undergraduate colleges in Fall 2000. After full implementation in Fall 2001, the plan was reviewed and revisions were initiated, starting with the Fall 2003 term. These included increasing the undergraduate enrollment target by 50 students to 3,050 fall first-time freshmen and eliminating all January first-time freshmen.
A key element of the first-year freshman enrollment plan was the construction of conservative admit and yield models(1) and the strategic use of the waitlist(2). Students admitted from the waitlist are just as strong as students admitted through regular and early decision based on standard, quantifiable measures. Contrary to conventional wisdom, there has been no dramatic drop-off in academic quality when colleges admit from the waitlist. For an institution like Cornell, this is primarily due to our large and strong applicant pool.</p>

<p>(1) The admit model is used to estimate the initial number of students each college should admit during the regular decision process to yield the targeted number of matriculating students. The yield model examines relevant characteristics of admitted students and statistically determines the likelihood of enrollment for a given admitted
student.
(2) Because the admit and yield models are predictive tools that approximate enrollment prior to admitted students' acceptance or rejection of Cornell's offer of admission, it is customary to utilize an admission waitlist to guard against over-enrollment. High quality students who are not selected for admission in the regular decision process are carefully vetted to be placed on an individual college's waitlist. It is this pool of students who are offered a place on the waitlist that allows us to address conceivable shortfalls in freshman target enrollments.

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<p>So basically, being waitlisted means that you're qualified to attend, but not as qualified as those to whom they actually offer admission?</p>

<p>I can live with that, I suppose. Now I just have to prove that Cornell is still my number one dream school. Also pray.</p>

<p>Then what's the difference between someone who was waitlisted vs. someone who was put in as a GT?</p>

<p>being waitlisted does not guarantee anything, but with the GT you can basically depend on a transfer!</p>

<p>No, but I mean their reasons in terms of the applicant. Are waitlised candidates more qualified than GTs? Vice-versa? Why do they waitlist someone, but offer GTs to others?</p>

<p>I was waitlisted after applying to the Applied Economics and Management program at CALS.. So the other day I was talking to my AP Macroeconomics teacher about the acceptances and rejections I got, and he told me (unsolicited) that he thinks I'm a really gifted student, and very honest and hard-working, and that the college I ended up going to would be very lucky to have me. </p>

<p>I also did very well in econ so far this year (95 average first semester, which was the highest of any of my classes). </p>

<p>So after reading this thread, I've been thinking about asking my econ teacher if he could write me a letter of recommendation (my initial rec letters were from Latin and Precalculus teachers), to send to Cornell in addition to a letter I'd be sending them from myself. Would this be a good thing to do? The main thing that worries me is that I know most colleges normally want 2 rec letters, and that more can even sometimes hurt you, so I feel like this could seem kind of superfluous (or even annoying) to the adcoms. It also might seem like I had someone else "do work" to show that I was interested, if that makes any sense. But, in general, another good rec letter would seem to be useful to convince the adcoms to take me off the waitlist.. so would this be a good idea?</p>

<p>cough (bump) cough</p>

<p>I think it is a good idea to include the additional recommendation when writing to Cornell to let them know that you are very interested in getting off of the waitlist. I don't think it can hurt at all.</p>