<p>Did anyone get accepted to both? Why did you choose one over the other? All help is greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Olin is an undergraduate business SCHOOL. Cornell’s AEM is a departments within their college of liberal arts.</p>
<p>If you want a full study of business, with something like 8 different majors to later concentrate in, then Wash U is a better choice. If you want a narrow introduction to business, specializing in management and economics, then Cornell is right for you. </p>
<p>I’m not sure how broad Cornell’s program is, because I don’t go there, and I don’t know how many classes are offered in different areas like Finance, Marketing, etc. I just know that Wash U’s Olin business school is a fully fledged separate entity, that will have more in depth academic opportunities over a broad business curriculum. I don’t think you can go wrong with either, and I think Cornell’s program still ranks pretty highly.</p>
<p>Cornell’s program is actually ranked 8th by Businessweek and WashU is only #16. Cornell’s seems to have more liberal arts classes associated with it and you can specialize in different areas but not major. </p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>vbball90, you clearly know nothing about AEM at Cornell. AEM is within the college of agriculture and life sciencs, not arts and sciences and is a fully accredited business program. AEM has about 800 students and is certainly large enough to be its own school within the university, and has a very broad curriculum. There are concentrations in a variety of areas in business, the same as at WashU and most other B-schools. It is absolutely not a ‘narrow introduction to business’. Cornell’s program doesn’t rank ‘pretty highly’, it ranks far ahead of WashU, and is substantially better recruited in tough fields like investment banking. AEM has one of the lowest (if not THE lowest) acceptance rates of all majors at cornell at around 12% last I heard. WashU is not known for business, and St. Louis is a poor location for recruiting in these fields…</p>
<p>Anything else?</p>
<p>I hear the Olin Business School only has class four days a week to make room for internships on fridays. I don’t know my cities/towns very well but i’m just guessing that internships for undergraduates are more abundant in St. Louis than in Ithaca, NY. Internships prove that you have actually had real work experience, and that means a lot to employers who are looking to hire the best businessmen and businesswomen they can. Just my opinion.</p>
<p>An internship during the school year is not going to be serious, and is not a big deal. Important internships are during the summer, and when it comes to those, AEM (and cornell in general) has more companies recruiting. Cornell has much, much more representation and credibility on wall street if that is your end goal.</p>
<p>Hey, you know what’s even better? Internships during the school year AND during summe. Anyone who says an internship during the school years won’t be of much help clearly doesn’t understand the recruiting process.</p>
<p>You clearly don’t understand that cornell has far better recruiting and reputation for business than WashU. You cannot realistically work more than like 10hrs a week during the school year if you can only do it on one day a week so it is not really that helpful. I applied to both of these schools and when I was talking over schools I was applying to with a friend of the family who is a VP at goldman, he had never even heard of WashU! I have seen the list of schools that goldman recruits at, and WashU is not on it.</p>
<p>Very good point, but try not to sound too biased. It doesn’t look good when you roam other college forums to put down other schools.</p>
<p>now now, children…
jk.</p>
<p>Anyway, I know nothing about business. I’m an engineering student, but I’ll give my opinion anyway.
If you want to go the ibanking route, Cornell wins.
However, I personally think Ithaca is a complete cess pool waste of a town, and thus refused to even consider Cornell. And it’s cold in the winter there. Very, very, cold. Personal opinion of course. I really like St. Louis.</p>
<p>Other than that, what do you want to specialize in at Cornell, vs. major in at WashU?
Obviously if you’re thinking healthcare management, WashU wins that one since I don’t think Cornell even has that.</p>
<p>And for the record hermanns, WashU definitely has recruiters. Not the same as the ones at Cornell, but the schools are in two completely different areas of the country.
Also Hermanns, I don’t think they expect to only work on fridays. Having Fridays off just gives you more time potential. A school-year internship is most certainly not a joke like you’re implying it is.</p>
<p>Well I have really been considering accounting. Which one would be better for accounting connections?</p>
<p>I have nothing against WashU, it is an excellent school, it’s just that its strengths are in areas outside of business and the OP wants to study business. I only came in here because the poster also posted in cornell forum and I was curious to see what WashU people were saying. I do not doubt WashU gets plenty of recruiters, it’s just that for the extremely competitive jobs like Ibanking, they suffer.</p>
<p>While I am not a big fan of Ithaca either, I practically never have to leave the campus outside of going to the store or an apartment off campus. The campus is huge and beautiful there is rarely reason to leave it while school is in session as there is always plenty to do. St. Louis is not exactly the safest city in America either, and while Ithaca may be boring, it is not particularly dangerous. Ithaca does get cold and windy and so does St. Louis, but I survived as a floridian who has never even seen snow prior to arriving at cornell. These schools are on more level ground when discussing majors such as biology.</p>
<p>I would just like to point out that it is EAST St. Louis that is one of the danger capitals of the US. (East StL as in Illinois)
And WashU isn’t really near there anyway.</p>
<p>I will concede that there are off-campus robberies and such, but nearly all the crime on campus are crimes of opportunity (honestly… why would you leave a laptop unattended?) that all colleges have.</p>
<p>Mind you, this is coming from a person who lives in a city that is much more dangerous than East StL.</p>
<p>What about this plan. Getting a degree at Wash U for economics and something else. Then getting your MBA from schools like HBS, GSB, Wharton and etc? This would be extremely helpful to get into Morgan Stanley and etc right? And even though companies like these don’t necessarily recruit students from Wash U directly but this doesn’t mean that if you are outstanding, you can not go fight for a position right?</p>
<p>If I were a VP at Goldman and I had never heard of Wash U, I would be embarrassed.</p>
<p>“If I were a VP at Goldman and I had never heard of Wash U, I would be embarrassed.”</p>
<p>LOL Nice!</p>
<p>Yeah if I hadn’t know about Wash U and I was a VP I would also be a little embarrassed, but I didn’t know about it before I visited haha but I really liked it.</p>
<p>And Ysbera, I was considering doing the 3+2 accounting masters program and also majoring in entrepreneurship at Wash U because I seem to like the campus more. Going to work somewhere and then after like 4-5 years going back for my MBA at like Harvard, Penn, Northwestern or another really good program.</p>
<p>Both our MACC (and MSF) programs are pretty popular. Olin has sent plenty of students to Ernst and Young and PricewaterhouseCoopers (among others). :)</p>
<p>And just because a certain company doesn’t recruit on-campus doesn’t meant you can’t apply (and get hired).</p>
<p>OK thanks. I need to figure out if Cornell has a 5 year accounting program.</p>
<p>How is the career center? BusinessWeek gave getting jobs a C but I find that a little hard to believe.</p>