<p>js1684 - the average for transferring period is a 3.5, and both the dean of admissions and the eng. dept told me that engineering transfers are lower, and usually above a 3.0. i just figure with a 4.2 senior year, and attending VT, i have a shot...plus, the march first deadline is sufficient time to send in a mid-year grade report, so im gonna bust my butt next semester and hopefully show an upward trend! =)</p>
<p>for you
Johns Hopkins- reach, but not auto-reject by any means!
WUSTL- not sure
Emory- with your stats and a high rate, i think you have a good shot
Brandeis-Accept
UT-Austin Accept</p>
<p>Yeah shoebox, I agree.... UVA transfer admission is 40%, and if you own the mid-year report I think your SAT, location, and rigor of high school curriculum will increase your odds significantly. With everything as is, I'd say you’re a 50-50 shot. My reasoning here is that while a 3.2 is commendable for an engineer major, it's a score that could fluctuate considerably, especially for a freshman, depending on how well you step up to the plate during your second semester of college. With a strong showing, you could raise your GPA to a 3.6, while a weak performance may lower it into the 2's. I think UVA will be interested which way the pendulum will swing. Do well on the mid-year report, and I'd say your odds move to about 75%. Of course, if you do well next semester and wait for next fall to apply; I think your chance shoots over the 95% mark. All said, how well you write your essay could be an important factor, especially if you apply with a 3.2 and your mid-year report doesn’t go as well as you plan for whatever reason.</p>
<p>mid-year report, as in next semester?? Oh i definently plan on sending one...(how exactly do you go about that? Just ask each professor to state your grade and send it to them? will UVA accept them that way?) and working my butt off, because as i see it, once i get back i have 6 weeks before march 1 deadline rolls around, so if i can bust through those 6 weeks, in the end, UVA will be so worth it...
frankly, i think ive got a lot going for me (female, instate, 4.2 senior year, good SATs especially math, ill have great teacher recs, first-gen), and a 3.2 is still above average for engineering, so if i continue the upward trend next semester, i think i'll have a good chance =)</p>
<p>Shoebox, each of your posts seems to indicate your strong opinion re the lowered GPA standards for engineering because of its difficulty. While I will not dispute this difficulty, I think don't think you should excuse your GPA simply by noting it is above average for engineering students. I have many friends at U.Texas-Austin and Michigan who are making are almost wrapping up 3.5s and 3.6s in their first semester of engineering taking 15-17 units. While I am not trying to discredit your achievements, I am trying to make sure you realize that a 3.2 even if it is from VT Engineering is not a great GPA.</p>
<p>i agree, i know there are better GPAs...i just think that all of my factors help it, and especially since a lot of my grades will be B+s...however, i have no "cushion" classes, as most freshman are taking english classes...instead, im in two math classes, chemistry, chemlab, an engineering course, and an eng. lab...but i still dont think a 3.24 is low for engineering, as the average GPA for freshman here is a 2.8, and at UVA its a 2.9....but it is considered that having a 3.5 is like having a 4.0 in any other major, and i dont think many would disagree with that</p>
<p>might i add that freshman year is challenging in itself because you are getting used to the changes/finding study habits...had i found the study habits i began developing over the last month in the beginning of the semester, im sure i could be pulling a 3.5...i think thats why theres a bigger importance for my mid-semester grades for 2nd semester, as classes will be much harder and then they'll see true potential</p>
<p>First, I understand where you are coming from with the whole your 3.24 being better than the 2.8 avg. But, even coupled with your course load, that does not justify the GPA insofar as you elected to take that rigorous courseload, presuming you enjoyed and had an aptitude for engineering.</p>
<p>Second, I have also never heard of the 3.5 in engineering being like a 4 in another discipline. I think this is another instance of you being too partial to engineering. Once again, I concede that engineering is an extremely difficult subject in terms of course work and time spent. However, I hardly believe that an applicant who pulls a 3.2-3 in engineering will outshine an applicant who pulls a 3.7+ in another field purely in terms of GPA. </p>
<p>Furthermore, many engineering students are able to pull even higher than a 3.5, but none that I know seem to accord much significance to this except that they need to bump up their GPA to the high 6s and mid 7s to make cum laude and try for magna cum laude.</p>
<p>take engineering courses, then you'll understand...im not saying no one gets above a 3.5, but most university averages for engineering are around a 3.0...look in the engineering major thread, theres a topic about this called "Is a 2.8 Respectable" and engineers/non-engineers have debated it heavily, as well as whether a 3.5 from a lower school is "better" than a 3.0 from a higher-ranked school...
engineering is a complicated subject to deal with, because when you think about it, when engineers screw up, buildings/bridges/medical equip/basically stuff that makes the world turn could fail...however, please don't ever underestimate the work an engineering-major puts in until you experience it...you never know until you take two math courses, chem/physics, and other technical classes all at once, where some classes are dependent on two tests and a final...</p>
<p>Well I'm taking a Honors sequence of Cal II, developmental econometrics, and intro to pchem as a freshman (all honors) in addition to two units of western world literature (also honors). I'm not commenting as a mere bystander. I'm involved in the heavy math and science. If I stay at my current institution, I will be pursuing a triple major in Econ, Bio and Chem, so trust me, I understand about the math and science.</p>
<p>"However, I hardly believe that an applicant who pulls a 3.2-3 in engineering will outshine an applicant who pulls a 3.7+ in another field purely in terms of GPA."</p>
<p>I totally agree, i don't think engineering majors are more or less important than political science majors, or business majors, or anything else...my entire point is that a 3.2 is a decent average for an engineer, especially for the first time in college...i guess it will all depend on my next semester</p>
<p>by the 3.5=4.0 reference i meant that it applies more to jobs post-college, as top engineering firms are more likely to take a 3.5 than a top business firm would take a 3.5 business major, as the number of 3.5+ applicants for engineering firms is much lower than for say, business firms...sorry, should have continued that thought a bit more =P</p>
<p>shoebox, everyone knows this is true. engineering gpas are generally lower because it is harder. period. i have friends at ivies that awe at the work that i have to do at ga tech. it is hard and when you get out, you will have recognition; just not from liberal arts majors...</p>
<p>i like you hahah on that note, this might sound stupid and corny and cheap, but when asked why i want to be an engineer, its simple: i want to make a contribution to the world, and engineers do that everyday...
i hope it doesnt sound fake cause its the basis for an essay for UVA haha</p>
<p>and i have to disagree with you on the thought that liberal arts majors dont reconize us...they do, in fact, everyday when they use an elevator, or take the subway to work, or use their fridge...engineers created those things, and although LA majors might not credit us directly, im sure they credit those who make their lives simplier everyday</p>
<p>cowboy.ed, I definitely understand the vast amount of work that is put into engineering majors. All my friends in my advanced calculus and chem classes are engineering (bio/electrical) majors. My only comment was that I thought shobox should strive for a higher GPA and not be content with a 3.2 which is considered above average for engineering majors at VT.</p>
<p>Plus, I'll be taking almost the exact same science sequences as many engineering students excepting the engineering math courses and electrical engineering courses.</p>
<p>hah, im not content at all...but, its my first semester...am i glad im doing better than average? yes, as that means im doing better than half of my peers...however, i think every college student can agree that first semester is tough because you're thrown into a new world, need to develop new study habits, deal with new friends, ect...do i think i can do better second semester? most likely, as now i know the importance of studying and ways to stay focused...so, the best advice i think i can give myself is to maintain an upward trend into second semester, and try to get a 3.5 (or better) for second semester at midterms because that would bring my overall GPA up to a 3.4, or better, which i think is a competative GPA for UVA's E-school</p>
<p>I'm putting my best foot forward on these schools and I know Harvard, Stanford, Wharton are long-shots for anyone, but am I in a good position?</p>
<p>Current College - The George Washington University
GPA - 3.9
Test Scores - 1400 (660V 740M), 690 Bio, 700 Math IIC, 640 Writing
Best ECs - Business School Mentor, Internship at a Bank in the Middle East, Internship at an Energy Consulting firm
Applying for what standing - Junior
Intended Major - Business Administration or Economics (2 schools)
Stuyvesant HS GPA - 88.9</p>
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Intended Major - molecular bio/ pre-med
HS GPA -</p>
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GPA: 3.87
Test Scores: SAT I: 2020, SAT II: 700's in math and chem
Strong letters of recommendation from UCB professors in Engilsh and Research</p>
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<p>okay, so would a 3.2 from ga tech...transferring as a sophomore (freshman now) be enough to get into vandy? i posted my other stats a week ago, so they are on the thread...please help; anxiety is setting in.</p>