<p>Cornell's recognition is higher among people who matter less. In business and law for example Dartmouth wins hands down. If you care what a chinese biologist thinks, yes, Cornell wins.</p>
<p>Cornell for engineering and biology, Dartmouth for liberal arts.</p>
<p>Dartmouth Law--has a nice ring to it. Too bad there is no such thing.</p>
<p>"Cornell's recognition is higher among people who matter less"</p>
<p>what a stupid assumption.</p>
<p>Barrons - I mean former Dartmouth alumni are much more prevelant at the top law schools.</p>
<p>keep in mind - the majority of students at Cornell are going for something other than law (examples: engineering, hotel administration, architecture art and planning, agricultural sciences, plus the hundreds of biology majors in both arts and sciences and in the ag school). The engineering school adds 2,700 students that probably wont be going to law school. A school like Dartmouth doesn't have these types of students. Just keep this in mind when making assumptions about the number of students in law school from each college.</p>
<p>Like I've said before, I think the Cornell education is on par with schools usually considered to be better than it, but its just easier to get in...plus Cornell has engineering which makes it the best Ivy in that area</p>
<p>nicely put</p>
<p>Were you implying that other Ivy's don't have engineering?
I assure you they do...
However, Cornell does have an upper hand in the dept. (by far hehe).</p>
<p>Cornell also HAS a Top 7 law school that might attract more of its grads than other schools.</p>
<p>Like I've said before, I think the Cornell education is on par with schools usually considered to be better than it, but its just easier to get in...plus Cornell has engineering which makes it the best Ivy in that area</p>
<p>many recruiters feel that princeton engineering is better than cornell's</p>
<p>Here's the difference.</p>
<p>Cornell is a research institution, Dartmouth is an undergraduate focused school. For those who want to go into business certain things are critical - particularly alumni network, recruiting, reputation, community (how well you know your own classmates), selectivity (this is much of your future network), and these are the areas in which Dartmouth excels. If you look at the number of recruiters from "elite" firms recruiting on campus, Dartmouth has almost twice as many compared to Cornell, coming from a much smaller school. The reasons for this are likely because Dartmouth has alot of credibility with the "old boys" club, which exists much less today but seems to have lasting effects on the strength of the school when it comes to alumni networks, recruiting, etc. Ten years ago Dartmouth was a much harder place to get into than Cornell, so its reputation in the communties that matter persists. Its the same reason as to why Wash U might be a great school, but in the business its still not close to many of the Ivies in terms of reputation. In business, you want to go with the horse with more momentum, and in this case its Dartmouth.</p>
<p>If you look at graduate placement, Dartmouth is much closer to Princeton than it is to Cornell when it comes to placing grads in top programs and much of this has to do with the level of interaction students get with professors and the reputation of the school. Its very difficult to get lost at Dartmouth and the opportunities which are hidden at other schools are practically thrown at you. </p>
<p>Cornell is a larger school with more access to research, but less of the undergraduate focus and coddling. In my opinion, for those going to grad school or business Dartmouth's undergraduduate coddling is an advantage. For those going into the hard sciences (and who actually want to be engineers, computer scientists, or work at the CDC) Cornell is a better bet.</p>
<p>hey that was copied from another thread!</p>
<p>NYU=overrated</p>
<p>I think the most over-prestigious schools are the big publics like Michigan, Berkeley, Virginia, North Carolina. Hard to say that Emory/BU/NYU are overrated, because not as many people know them as well.</p>
<p>I just think that many Americans consider schools good based on the performance of their football team....</p>
<p>I'm surprised people at the other Ivy schools haven't come up with a Cornell logo that is one of those orange triangles like they have on the back ends of tractors and back-hoes (instead of license plates), with a "C" in the middle of it.</p>
<p>UNC football is not very good. However you might want to look at the numbers of top scholars at the schools you mentioned and some others. You might find more NAS members and winers of Guggenheims and other major awards than at some higher ranked privates--and no privates that are ranked lower have similar quality on the faculty. Also add in the superior facilities and libraries and you might get a clue.</p>
<p>Here's a good source. You can see where NYU etc. compare.</p>
<p><a href="http://thecenter.ufl.edu/research2005.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://thecenter.ufl.edu/research2005.pdf</a></p>
<p>Yeah. Renin, that was a pretty ignorant post.
Just sayin'
haha.</p>
<p>What Renin said is true (that most Americans know colleges based on sports teams moreso than academics), although that statement doesnt apply too much with the colleges listed. I am sure more people have heard of Michigan State University becuase of its Big 10 Status than have heard of Williams College, but williams colleges overall academics are (in almost every program both schools offer), much better.</p>
<p>Harvard is the most overrated.</p>
<p>Parts of NYU (Stern, Tisch) are underrated. :)</p>