<p>i think tisch undergrad in wayyyy overrated
but i also think that stern is underated</p>
<p>How is tisch overrated?!</p>
<p>thats just my opinion...it's not set in stone.....lol</p>
<p>Slipper,</p>
<p>There are so many faulty statements in your posts about Cornell that its hard to know where to start.</p>
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frankly its alum network IS weaker
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What meaningful empirical evidence do you have for such a statement? From my meager anecdotal sample I think youre engaging in wishful thinking. I have immediate family members that are graduates of Cornell, Princeton, Dartmouth, Brown, and Harvard. The Cornell Network is every bit is strong as the other schools. A more realistic statement is these networks are what you make of them. A Princeton relative does hardly any networking whereas the Cornell people all use their contacts to considerable advantage. Its more about the individuals than the group as a whole. My hunch is that you personally are a good networker, and therefore have an inflated view of the Big Greens power.</p>
<p>Your constant quoting of the flawed WSJ grad placement report leads me to question your intellectual honesty. Do you ever wonder why they have never updated the study?</p>
<p>And then there are statements like this:
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Ten years ago Dartmouth was a much harder place to get into than Cornell, so its reputation in the communities that matter persists.
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These types of assertions make me think that you must be awfully insecure and are in fact worried about Dartmouths place in the world.</p>
<p>The fact is that Cornell is more like the rest of the Ivy League than Dartmouth is. Harvard, Yale, Penn, Brown, and Columbia are all fantastic research institutions. Perhaps its time for Dartmouth to join the NESCAC (New England Small College Athletic Association). That might be a better fit. LOL</p>
<p>Wharf</p>
<p>wharf, that was an awesome post!!!!</p>
<p>as much as i respect slipper, he is obviously very insecure. What other person with 2 ivy league degrees goes around on a college chatroom bashing every school outside of his self-created "approved" status group, which for him is H, Y, P, S, M, Columbia, Penn, Brown, Dartmouth, and Duke. He excludes Cornell, Chicago, Northwestern, etc.....</p>
<p>it's seems as if alota ppl are saying NYU and Cornell... iwonder y so many ppl think that these schools are overated?</p>
<p>I have no idea...Cornell is profoundly UNDERrated in my humble opinion :)</p>
<p>Emory and Penn State</p>
<p>Cornell is underated in my opinion as well...</p>
<p>Well, aside from engineering, I would think most kids would choose Dartmouth (which has like 'engineering sciences' but not an engineering school)</p>
<p>overrated- Harvard undergrad, Cornell, Duke, NYU</p>
<p>underrated- Brown</p>
<p>awesome post Wharf!</p>
<p>Yo wharf,</p>
<p>What's with the nescac hate...
That one statement pretty much underwrote the meaning of your entire text.</p>
<p>The fact remains that a thread like this means nothing since a school being labelled as underrated or overrated properly can only be achieved when the average person's remarks are compared to those of grad schools and employers. Till then, this thread means nothing.</p>
<p>there is zero hate for NESCAC here...alll the schools in that league are great for academics and have the right balance between sports and academics... the scholar-athlete still thirves at those schools...</p>
<p>I brought in NESCAC simply to point out that perhaps Dartmouth is the school that does not fit the Ivy mold as opposed to his implication that its Cornell...</p>
<p>Let me be clear... I am NOT Dartmouth bashing...it is a great college and one that certainly belongs in the Ivy League...but as you know by now I also believe that Cornell is very much its peer and belongs in the old octogon as well</p>
<p>I actually usually see Cornell underrated a lot.</p>
<p>Dartmouth is much more Ivy-league-esque than Cornell, more humanities focused, preppy, etc. plus smaller and has the old boys connections hehe</p>
<p>Your interpretation of "Ivy League-esque" is rather subjective and loosely founded, don't you think? Humanities focused? There are no bio or business or social science or engineering programs in the Ivy League? Preppy? What does this word really mean--style of dress? If so, there are colleges down south that are more "Ivy League-esque" than Dartmouth. Smaller? Then Dartmouth is also more "Ivy League-esque" than Harvard? If you say Dartmouth is more of a liberal arts college than Cornell, then of course you are right, but this hazy idea of "Ivy League-esque" you presented holds no weight.</p>
<p>the humanities arguement holds some truth. While Ivys typically are like 4 of the top ten in most departments, in Engineering, Cornell is the only top 10 Ivy. In the field of engineering, schools like Purdue and University of Illinois outshine every Ivy.
-The average 'ivy' school undergrad enrollement is probably around 7,000, and cornells is the biggest at 13000, so in this senceDartmouth is more 'typical'
-Dartmouth and Cornell just fall on different ends of the Ivy Spectrum. Dartmouth undergrad has more in common with top Liberal arts colleges, like swarthmore and williams, while Cornell undergrad has more in common with Top public schools, such as Berkeley and U of Michigan under grad.
-Idk about the 'preppy' aspect as it applys to ivys. (i think Vandy is the most preppy school, actually).</p>
<p>btw, it would be such an incredible honor to attend either school, Dartmouth or Cornell! (i am not apply to cornell becuz of bad Fin aid, and i think dartmouth is to small/isolated for me)</p>
<p>CJ, get in then talk :-)</p>
<p>And someone said that dartmouth belongs in the Ivy league because it's more humanities focused than cornell. What?</p>
<p>Liberal arts colleges are more humanities focused whereas universities are more focused on the 'real world'/work after college (for the most part).</p>