<p>Agreed with above post. The most generous financial aid incentives are offered by the MOST competitive for admissions schools…most accepting only 10% of those who apply. The translation to that is that 90% or so do NOT get accepted. Their financial aid incentives are terrific, but only if you are accepted. Many very qualified students are denied admission to these schools in that 90%.</p>
<p>What I question here is how many international students apply for financial aid from top Ivy Leagues and how many actually get in? When I see stats as “28% get in” to Northwestern, as an international student, I doubt it’ll be that lenient for me because I’m an international student. My guess is more like 5% of the total international applicants get accepted with aid. </p>
<p>Any input?</p>
<p>I think the fact that ivies are so generous with whatever number of int’ls they admit (obviously a small number), that gives other int’ls thinking that there’s all this money in the US available to any and all internationals. Some even have rather modest stats and still think that their education will get paid for.</p>
<p>The truth is that many/most American students can’t get the aid that they need.</p>
<p>I also think that many colleges don’t even want to get involved with the whole figuring out “need” of int’ls because it would be understandably difficult to really find out what their assets/incomes truly are in foreign countries. It probably is easier to hide money/assets in foreign countries. JMO</p>
<p>Thanks all 4 ur help, I appreciate!!!</p>
<p>Not necessarily. Thats not the highest SAT’s but doesnt mean that you cant get a full ride. Look at state schools. If you have good grades and great ECs then go higher.</p>
<p>And I keep seeing this “high SAT” thing like you have to have a high SAT to get anywhere and do anything. My SAT’s are not bad but then they’re not so great either but a college would pick me over alot of people cuz I have ALL IB classes which I’m doing well in and my ECs are excellent. </p>
<p>Dont be discouraged and shoot for the stars.! :)</p>
<p>IBSenior, the OP said that the SAT score of 1240 is out of 2400. That’s just over 400 per section. There are no schools that I know of that would offer a full ride for scores like that, particularly for an international student. </p>
<p>It’s nice of you to offer encouragement but please be realistic and don’t get her hopes up where no hope likely exists.</p>
<p>**IBSenior **quote: Not necessarily. Thats not the highest SAT’s but doesnt mean that you cant get a full ride. Look at state schools.</p>
<p>That SAT is out of 2400. But even if it was out of 1600, there aren’t ANY universities that would give that SAT a “full ride” as you state. If there any, provide their links.</p>
<p>Also, the OP is an int’l student. There’s even less available for int’l students. But, that said, even a citizen wouldn’t get anything.</p>
<p>But, that said, even a citizen wouldn’t get anything.</p>
<p>mom2collegekids, As much as I agree with much of what you’ve written in this thread, there are colleges that will give citizens substantial merit for a 1240/1600. (And I know that’s not what the OP had. I am just commenting on what you wrote.) They may not give a student like that a full ride but there are schools that will give merit— either a ‘tuition discount’ type of merit ($1K-$10K) or merit for a kid they really want. But that’s neither here nor there…</p>
<p>As far as the OP, I do think that the best solution would be a cc however:
1- student has to be able to prove he can provide for himself to get a visa to the US
2- student has to look into what the instate tuition requirements are of the cc in question I know that there’s a poster who says that Maryland cc’s only require internationals to live in the state for 3 months before letting them have instate tuition, but I have never confirmed that and don’t know what the situation is in other states.
3- The other consideration with a cc is that the OP would have to support himself. Would a visa allow him to work legally in the US? If not, the loans might still be prohibitive.</p>
<p>I probably wasn’t clear in my post. </p>
<p>My point was that a citizen wouldn’t get a “free ride” with a 1240/1600.</p>
<p>When I said that a citizen wouldn’t get “anything,” I had mentally gone back to the 1240/2400 SAT. I should have had a transition sentence in there.</p>
<p>THanks for letting me clarify. :)</p>
<p>I agree that that is not the best SAT score but its always good to at least try. You really never, things happen. Yes, CC is a more realistic route but he/she should give somewhere a shot and see what happens. </p>
<p>And I’m not trying to get hopes, I’m simply being an optimist.</p>
<p>^^^</p>
<p>Can you name one school where an int’l with a 1240/2400 SAT would get a merit scholarship?</p>
<p>you def need 2 take the sats again.</p>
<p>I agree with collegebound2o1o. Get one of the SAT books, study then take it over.</p>
<p>I’m really not going to keep going back and forth so…</p>
<p>When I said state schools, I was looking at it from a Pennsylvania standpoint. Schools under the PASSHE are very inexpensive and they offer alot of financial aid. I’m sure that they would also be very helpful for int’l students.</p>
<p>Noone on her is an ADMISSIONS OFFICER so stop acting like one. You can never tell what colleges want as each year what they are looking for changes. A kid from Philly got into Yale with a 1.3 GPA. Who woulda ever thought that someone with that low of a GPA coulda gotten into Yale?</p>
<p>When I said state schools, I was looking at it from a Pennsylvania standpoint. Schools under the PASSHE are very inexpensive and they offer alot of financial aid. I’m sure that they would also be very helpful for int’l students.</p>
<p>Penn St schools are not inexpensive (they are actually some of the most expensive public schools for residents), and they are rather expensive for non-residents. The Penn St. schools can’t even meet need for its own students, much less for non-residents.</p>
<p>From the Penn State website: Financial Aid for International Students -
Penn State does not offer student financial aid for international students.</p>
<p>And…This thread was about merit money, not FA.</p>
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<p>Oh…do provide the details of this one. I’m sure there is MUCH more to this story than just this kid’s GPA. </p>
<p>I agree…the student needs to retake the SAT…and be realistic about college costs and aid that might be available. If the only way he/she can attend college in the U.S. is with a full free ride, that may be difficult to come by unless this applicant has some extraordinary hook that they haven’t provided (like they are the child of a Prime Minister somewhere…or have won a Nobel Prize…ah but then they wouldn’t need the financial aid, would they?).</p>
<p>The hardest thing about the college search is crafting a REALISTIC list from both a financial and admissions standpoint.</p>
<p>Yup Thumper1. There was more to the story but that is an EXTREMELY LOW GPA.</p>
<p>If you noticed I said schools under the PASSHE. I’m refering to them as the state schools cuz thats what they are.</p>
<p>IB…do post a link to the admitted student with the 1.3 GPA. At this point, what you have posted leads folks to believe that a student with a 1.3 GPA has a chance at Ivy League schools. To be honest, I’m not sure I believe what you have posted so a reference would be very good.</p>
<p>I’m not trying to lead anybody to believe anything. </p>
<p>I think your reading too much into what I’m saying and not seeing the bigger meaning. This isn’t english class stop analyzing everything. </p>
<p>Natigeta: Dont limit yourself and look around to see if you have any options. :)</p>
<p>Actually, your words do mean something. You’ve posted things like…“When I said state schools, I was looking at it from a Pennsylvania standpoint. Schools under the PASSHE are very inexpensive and they offer alot of financial aid. I’m sure that they would also be very helpful for int’l students.” </p>
<p>What that isn’t true at all. The public state schools in PA don’t give aid to int’l students, so how would they be “very helpful for int’l students.” And, PA public schools are expensive to non-resident students (heck, they aren’t cheap for resident students either - the in-state tuition at PA publics is typically higher than other states)</p>
<p>When you post things like that, you’re giving false hope to an int’l. Students typically can only apply to 6-10 schools. No one with huge need and lowish scores needs to waste his limited time and resources on apps to schools that won’t help him.</p>
<p>IB…all I’m asking is that you provide some link or supportive information about a student getting accepted at an Ivy with a 1.3 GPA. I don’t think that is too much to ask…if it’s true.</p>
<p>Every student should reach for the stars…realistically.</p>