<p>% are much lower only due to location. LIKE I SAID. Ross has the edge in Chicago, Wharton in NYC and Philly. They have equal chance of landing the same jobs.</p>
<p>its not only due to location hallerbigballer...in NYC Wharton definitely has an edge while Michigan has it in Chicago due to regional effect. However, if you compare # of Wharton vs. # of Michigan/NYU in other banking markets like SF, LA, Houston, London, Boston Wharton still dominates Stern and Ross.</p>
<p>Essentially Wharton is dominant in NYC but usually comes in right after the regional schools in other cities like LA, Boston, Chicago, SF, London, etc. In LA, for example, the only shops that really matter are UBS and CS (the other BB have pretty crappy LA ops)...at these shops Wharton tends to be a close second after UCLA/Stanford. Ross and Stern have no presence here at all. Same in the Palo Alto/SF offices...Stanford/Haas usually have big presence, Wharton has a decent presence, while Stern and Ross have no presence whatsoever. </p>
<p>So yes regional biases matter but Wharton, as compared with Stern and Ross, is able to overcome that bias and place a good amount of kids in each office and is actually competitive against the regional schools for regional spots...a threat that few non-region schools make. </p>
<p>and if location was the only factor then one would assume that NYU should have the largest share of the NY market which it doesnt even come close to having...Wharton,HYP all place more people than NYU.</p>
<p>Its really tough to say what's the best UG after Wharton, because Wharton is so strong in many areas. If you're looking for something in accouting, you might like UT Austin, Illiniois, etc.. Finance? Well, Stern is pretty good too. Management? Look at UM Ann ArborWant to live in the West Coast? UC Berkeley and USC are incredible schools, and USC's alumni reaches just about everywhere and is really tough to beat. I'm also surprised that nobody here really mentions MIT (Sloan) or UVA McIntire, as those are better than NYU Stern.</p>
<p>The best UG B Schools after Wharton are as follows:
1)Wharton (BY a HUGE margin)
2)Sloan
3)Haas</p>
<p>For what its worth, Stern is ridiculously overrated. What I mean is that NYU boasts one of the highest application rates (into the University, and into Stern), costs too much, and, frankly, is not that good, outside of Finance and its location in New York City. The only respectable T5 Program there that I see is Finance. People on this board really, really overrate Stern's program, most likely because of the numbers that some of their finance guys make straight out of college, but, from what I've heard and from what I know, Stern definetely is NOT better than those three, UM Ann Arbor, etc.</p>
<p>Trust me on this. Stern is not that good, costs too much, has a terrible student-student everyday interaction. Sure, they do have a really good finance program, but its not loads better than MIT's, UMichigan's, Berkeley's, McIntire, or even Austin's. The only perk that I see about Stern is that its in New York, and that is a GREAT perk, if you're looking to work there during college, and after you graduate. New York, after all, is the financial capital of the world. However, if Stern was located in, say, Virginia, I'd take UVA all day long over Stern.</p>
<p>You should really get her to fall in love with Stanford. Everyone that I've met there is absolutely amazing. Its a great place to be, and you can do just about anything after you graduate. Plus, you can't beat California weather:)</p>
<p>Ross and Haas are tied for 3rd.</p>
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<p>Ross definitely sends less (~30% vs ~50%). However, it is almost entirely front office, as with Wharton.</p>
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<p>They are pretty much equal in terms of what percent go in to consulting. I think its a difference of about 1%.</p>
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<p>9.7%, 10.5%, 7.2%, respectively. I'd consider this group the minority.</p>
<p>I think we can all agree Wharton has a significant leg up. I'm just trying to paint a clearer picture of Ross.</p>
<p>Wharton is definitely better for consulting. Consulting is a general term. Anyone can be a consultant, anywhere. I can start a "consulting" business right now, and I would be part of that percentage, regardless of what I REALLY do. (I'll even call myself a business advisor/strategist.) Comparing those stats are meaningless unless you know what firm/position they got. Wharton probably sends more kids to M/B/B than any other school except Harvard. Ross is good, but it's no Wharton.</p>
<p>HYP students get great recruitment opps.. sometimes even better than Whartonites do.</p>
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Wharton is definitely better for consulting. Consulting is a general term. Anyone can be a consultant, anywhere. I can start a "consulting" business right now, and I would be part of that percentage, regardless of what I REALLY do. (I'll even call myself a business advisor/strategist.) Comparing those stats are meaningless unless you know what firm/position they got. Wharton probably sends more kids to M/B/B than any other school except Harvard. Ross is good, but it's no Wharton.
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<p>I didn't mean that they were equal in terms of quality of placement in consulting jobs. Ross only sends about 5 to McKinsie and Wharton sends like 20.</p>
<p>Ross is only half the size of Wharton (350 vs 600-700+) and Stern is even bigger (1000+, I guess). So,Wharton has more graduate to "go around" .</p>
<p>you guys should just stop arguing over stern, ross, haas, sloan etc etc because ultiamtely, these schoosl are excellent in what they do, and it depends on your personal fit and interest. and mtrizzle06, you should definitely stop looking down on stern....if any of you guys are intereseted in reputation in Asia , then Stern is definitely up there with HYPS and Haas.</p>
<p>lol, I second the University of Phoenix.</p>
<p>finally someone seconds</p>
<p>university of phoenix is alright. i'd rather go with devry.</p>
<p>Bern, do you accept private messages?</p>
<p>Because they may not be recruited by the same employers that recruit from Wharton…?</p>
<p>How hard is it to get into Wharton vs. just getting into Upenn?</p>
<p>Michigan Ross, MIT Sloan and Berkeley Haas are just a few points short to match Wharton.</p>
<p>My son is preferred admit to Ross as a freshmen and we are in state…he was admited to other top private schools but he is going to U of M. One things these silly arguements don’t mention is the relative cost. Wharton would be $220,000 over 4 years , but Ross will be $90,000. A top private would have put us and him in considerable debt and now, being a smart “business student” he can graduate with no debt.</p>
<p>And also gets to learn in a beautifull new building, and the rankings should keep going up for Ross.</p>
<p>^^^</p>
<p>or getting a full ride at wharton :P</p>
<p>som1, Wharton does not give out merit scholraships, only need-based financial aid. If a Michigan resident comes from a family with a relatively low income, chances are, in-staters will find Ross significantly more affordable than Wharton.</p>