When will we hear?

<p>you went to pcp...what year?</p>

<p>I went to pcp in 2004, just the one-week program (writers in new york)</p>

<p>ahhhh, gotcha. I was 2005.</p>

<p>Got home today from visiting Barnard yesterday and found my acceptance packet. :)</p>

<p>I am a parent and ordinarily I would never post stats of my daughter, but I want to post this just to show that it's not all about the numbers. We were advised by a private counselor not to bother to apply to Barnard because test scores were too low. D. ignored all such advice.</p>

<p>Decision: Accepted</p>

<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] ACT 29
[</em>] SAT: 1930 (620CR, 580M, 730W) (Not submitted)
[<em>] SAT IIs: ranged from 520 to 690 and were not submitted for obvious reasons.
[</em>] GPA: 4.2W, 3.8UW
[<em>] Rank: 2/150
[</em>] Other stats:
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Essays: Very nice essay about her foreign exchange experience.
[</em>] Teacher Recs: Excellent
[<em>] Counselor Rec: Excellent
[</em>] Interview: Excellent (She was very enthused about how well things clicked with her interviewer)
[<em>] Hook (if any): Foreign exchange to Russia; extensive dance training
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[</em>] State or Country: California
[<em>] School Type: Public arts magnet
[</em>] Ethnicity: White/Jewish
[/ul]Other Factors:
General Comments:
I am simply very gratified that the ad com overlooked my daughter's tendency to test significantly less well than she performs. My daughter took a big risk traveling abroad in high school, which interrupted her schedule and left her barely able to fit in all requisite courses to graduate.</p>

<p>Again - to all: I am posting this so that future applicants will look beyond numbers and not be intimidated by the mega-high SAT's that everyone posts. I think Barnard probably rejects some very high-end applicants if they feel that Barnard is being used as a safety for other Ivies - so this probably is the reason for why some exceptionally well qualified students get turned away. The important thing is to take the time to present yourself - and don't be afraid to apply to a school that is a big reach IF you think it is a good fit.</p>

<p>Calmom: my d attends Barnard now and is a dancer (not a dance major, however). Congrats and I know your d will absolutely love it there!!!</p>

<p>I am so glad you posted those stats and that info...well done!</p>

<p>My d. definitely wants to continue dance, esp. choreography, but definitely not as a major - so a big attraction of Barnard is the fact that the dance classes are open to all students. Daughter has also been accepted to NYU Gallatin and so it will end up being a close call between the two - though the respective school's financial aid departments may do the actual deciding.</p>

<p>I am D had much better stats and also traveled abroad in her high school year. It confirms my thoughts that on any given day, anyone can get in anywhere. My D didn't get in. I was sorely disappointed with Barnard.</p>

<p>Calmom - I don't know if your daughter is planning on attending Barnard (I only skimmed your post), but your daughter seems to be very reminscent of me. I did not have the <em>strongest</em> scores, and here I am at Barnard (first year). I'm also an avid dancer not interested in the major. But, the dance department here is great, and there are many, many people who dance here and don't major in it. If you have any questions, send them my way!</p>

<p>Congratulations to your daughter Calmom. Your daughter's ACT scores are not low at all and she has a fantastic class rank--Barnard seems like a good match school for her. And she seems to have expressed her passion in her essays--Barnard questions do offer adequate opportunity to do so. The students with higher test scores who have been denied admission may have underestimated the value of those questions/essays.</p>

<p>My daughter does well on the short-answer essays because she is very whimsical with those. For Barnard, there was one asking about what character from fiction taught her something .. and she chose to write about Eloise at the Plaza Hotel. Somehow that seemed like a perfect choice! ( I know that her interview went very well and I have heard again and again that interviews don't carry much weight, but somehow I think this one must have struck the right chord. I don't think any students who don't get in can be faulted for mistakes in essays -- I am sure there are many who poured their hearts out and wrote very well but didn't make it. It really isn't an essay-writing contest. I just think its the whole package coupled with whether it resonates with the people on the committee making the decisions. It must be very difficult to choose among so many exceptional young women. </p>

<p>Because my daughter has been involved in dance and performing arts for so long, I think we understand that a competitive selection process often seems to produce results that are hard to understand. It was always painful when some other girl got the part that my daughter had auditioned for -- and never a matter of my daughter not being good enough, but often a matter of the other girl simply seeming to fit the part better in the director's eyes. </p>

<p>mbe, I am so sorry that your daughter did not get accepted. If it is any consolation, my daughter has been turned down by Brandeis & Boston University, both schools that she thought would be easier to get into than Barnard. I think all that anyone can do is to give things their best shot. It isn't so much that the process is arbitrary as that we simply aren't the ones who make the decisions, and we aren't there to see what the choices are. As supplemental material, my daughter submitted her dance resume and a very short DVD with her choreography on it -- maybe someone just liked one of the dances she did. Who knows? I certainly hope that your daughter ends up where she is happy and does well. </p>

<p>QTPointe - thanks so much for your post. I will ask my daughter whether she would like to correspond with you -- I think now she has set up an email on the Barnard system, so maybe she would like to have some Barnard friends to test it out with. :)</p>

<p>congratulations to your daughter, calmom! =] just wondering, how did your daughter access her email account? i'm an ed applicant [accepted] and my name and barnard email are in the directory, but i don't know how to use it. thanks!</p>

<p>That's not possible. Barnard email addresses come out over the summer. However, you can get your columbia email address (I'm not sure quite yet) and the columbia email is the same as your barnard except for @barnard.edu</p>

<p>QTPointe - they must have changed the system since last year, because my daughter was encouraged to creat an email account. Sammie38, it was a little tricky, but there is a box on the page where you have to enter your Barnard application tracking number. Apparently this is something sent out when the application is first submitted, my daughter was able to find it by retrieving old email.</p>

<p>calmom,</p>

<p>Is there any way you could describe the email process in detail? It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!</p>

<p>Stephanie, I don't know, I might have been mistaken -- I only saw the login page once over my daughter's shoulder. It seemed to me that it said something about setting up an email on the system, but I don't know whether she did it or not, and this isn't the sort of thing that my daughter would talk to me about.</p>