Which UC do I belong to???

<p>Hey guys, do you mind giving your opinion on which UC's i could get into? Message me yours and I'll give you my evaluation if you want.
Here are my stats:
Weighted GPA: 4.5/4.6ish
UC GPA: 4.3
Not sure about my unweighted sorry!
And I haven't taken the SAT yet but I imagine its about 2000 if not a little higher
SAT II: US History 790, Physics 740, Math II 720</p>

<p>Extra Curric
Track and Field: 9, 10, 11
Cross Country: 10, 11
CSF member all years
Key club 10, 11, 12 (on board)</p>

<p>And I volunteer at my local hospital but only have like 100 hours right now
I'm also thinking about taking a medical assistant class and internship next semester but I'm not to sure about it because it takes so much time. I don't know if they'll even take it seriously at the admissions office or just pass it off as fluff.</p>

<p>My class rank is like 15/465</p>

<p>Here's my classes if you need them</p>

<p>Freshman yr (don't think this counts, i'll include just in case..)
bio- a/a
beg guitar- a/a
span 2 a/a
cult geo H a/a
english I H a/a
geo h a/b</p>

<p>Soph yr
span 3 -b/b
english II H- a/a
AP euro - a/a
Alg 2 H - a/a
chem - a/a</p>

<p>Junior yr (assuming i'll do just as well 2nd semester as my first)
AP spanish 4- a/a
APUSH- a/a
Pre-Cal H (Math analysis h) -a/a
English III H - a/a
AP Physics- a/a</p>

<p>i was also wondering how much harder Cornell is to get into than UCLA or Berkeley</p>

<p>Cornell, if CAS is considerably harder.</p>

<p>If you can get a 2050, you’ll have the average stats for the top 2 UCs, so you’d have a fighting chance. A 2000 would make most majors at SD a go and all the others should be fairly safe.</p>

<p>^ False. </p>

<p>Berkeley is harder to get into than Cornell, in general. Again, in general. Berkeley eng’g is harder to get into than Cornell Eng’g. If you’re not a top student in HS, you’re not gonna make it into Berkeley. That’s the just the first screening process at Berkeley, which isn’t a “rule of thumb” at Cornell and some Ivies. Cornell, on the other hand, accepts applicants who belong to the lower 30% of their HS class. But I’d imagine Cornell would be harder to get into than UCLA. It’s more like Berkeley > Cornell > UCLA, in terms of selectivity.</p>

<p>Check out the stats for the 3 schools so you’d know what I’m talking about.</p>

<p>jkah10, you have a shot at Berkeley, Cornell and UCLA, though it’s not something like “shoo-in”. But if you can raise you SATs to 2500 or higher, your chances will improve even more. of course, you still have to take care and improve your ECs too. </p>

<p>What’s your intended maajor, btw?</p>

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However smart and capable a student jkah10 seems to obviously be, it would be quite a feat to receive 2500 or higher, as the SAT is graded out of only 2400 points. Sorry to be a downer :D</p>

<p>Well, you have a good shot at UCSD, which is an amazing school. I would call it a match. You have a chance at Cal and UCLA - they’re maybe low reaches.</p>

<p>I’m just curious, why did you decide to take your SAT II’s before the actual SAT? I’ve never heard of someone doing that before.</p>

<p>sorry; that was supposed to be 2250 or higher.</p>

<p>oh it was just because i felt like i was ready for the SAT II’s but not for the SAT</p>

<p>one more opinion?</p>

<p>Sorry RML, I could not disagree more. Berkeley is not harder to get into than Cornell.</p>

<p>i took 2 SAT II’s before taking any SAT I.</p>

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<p>Care to explain why is that?</p>

<p>^ No one in their right mind would ever say Berkeley’s admission process is more competitive than Cornell’s. Berkeley is absolutely broke and just desperate for out of state full-paying applicants. Cornell isn’t. Berkeley’s in-state admission requirements are terribly low. Cornell (barring one UG college) does not favor NY applicants. They are thus held to the same high standards as everyone else. Also, as much as everyone would like to say that Berkeley’s application evaluation process is holistic, very less emphasis is placed on subjective parts of the application. Cornell, on the other hand, is far more holistic in its evaluation of applicants.</p>

<p>Your claims are baseless and completely unfounded. Let’s dig up some statistics for both schools for us to have some bases. </p>

<p>Berkeley requires that admitted students must be in the top 12.5% of their high school class. Anyone who did not belong to the upper 12.5% is out. That explains why 99% of Berkeley students come from the top 10 in HS and the average GPA for the admitted students is 3.93 (UW). In contrast, Cornell’s students has 88% from top 10%, and the average GPA is 3.87. So, regardless of how high your test scores are, your chances of getting into Berkeley is bleak. last year alone, I have seen 14 kids with perfect SAT scores that were turned down at Berkeley. I doubt if Cornell would turn down applicants with a perfect SAT score. </p>

<p>Berkeley’s combined SAT scores for 25%-75% is 1290-1520. Cornell’s is only 1280-1490. Not a big gap when you look at it that way. But considering that Berkeley does not superscore SATs and Cornell does, the gap should have been wider that what was published. If you would superscore SATs, you would normally add 20 points for each subject test. The average 25%-75% for Berkeley would become 1310-1540. That would then become a substantial difference. </p>

<p>Here’s the summary:</p>

<p>Top 10% of their HS Class:
Berkeley - 99%
Cornell - 88%</p>

<p>Average HS GPA (UW)
Berkeley - 3.93
Cornell - 3.88</p>

<p>Average SATs:
Berkeley - 1290-1520 (not superscored. If superscored 1310-1540)
Cornell - 1280-1490 (superscored)</p>

<p>So, in short, Berkeley has higher GPA, has more students from the top 10% of their graduating class and higher test scores. Therefore, Berkeley is harder to get into than Cornell. Even USNews ranks Berkeley higher than Cornell for Selectivity. </p>

<p>Soures:
<a href=“http://students.berkeley.edu/admissions/freshmen.asp[/url]”>http://students.berkeley.edu/admissions/freshmen.asp&lt;/a&gt;
[Cornell</a> University | Admissions Facts and Statistics](<a href=“http://www.admissionsconsultants.com/college/cornell.asp#cornell_admissions]Cornell”>http://www.admissionsconsultants.com/college/cornell.asp#cornell_admissions)</p>

<p>RML, here’s the part you’re missing, 90% at Berkeley come from CA public schools, the most grade inflated public schools in the US. Cornell draws from way more competitive high schools with about a third of the student body coming from elite private schools where GPAs are harder to inflate.</p>

<p>Berkeley is also not allowed to consider race, so there is no effort towards diversity impacting their SAT scores. Cornell is, simply, considerably harder to get into.</p>

<p>^ Oh, I guess you did not check the link I provided to you, my friend. </p>

<p>First of all, the OOS at Berkeley is not only 10% but 23.6%. It has exceed Berkeley’s target of 20%, as a matter of fact. </p>

<p>Second, those students who often go to Berkeley did not just come from so-so high schools like you’re assuming. Many students who go to Berkeley straight right out of HS have come from top-caliber high schools too and have also been admitted to at least one or two other top private high schools. </p>

<p>And, lastly, SATs are SATs. It’s there to normalize the so-called inflated HS grades of the students, as others have claimed. So, regardless of how they are applied to one’s admission policies, the fact remains that Berkeley has higher SAT scores than Cornell has, that despite that Berkeley does not superscore SATs and Cornell does. </p>

<p>As to your claims about ECs and essays, here’s what Berkeley says:</p>

<p>*All applications are read in their entirety by professionally trained readers. After independently reading and analyzing a file, the reader determines a comprehensive score which is the basis upon which the student is ultimately admitted or denied. In addition, admissions managers conduct multiple checks for consistency and completeness throughout the reading process. While this evaluation process is based on human judgments rather than a system that quantifies factors and incorporates them into a numerical formula, the extensive reader training, comprehensive reading of a file, as well as other monitoring procedures, ensure that the process is highly reliable. Formal tests of reliability are conducted regularly.</p>

<p>All achievements, both academic and non-academic, are considered in the context of the opportunities an applicant has had, and the reader’s assessment is based on how fully the applicant has taken advantages of those opportunities. For an applicant who has faced any hardships or unusual circumstances, readers consider the maturity, determination and insight with which he or she has responded to and/or overcome them. **In evaluating the context in which academic accomplishments have taken place, readers consider the strength of the high school curriculum, including the availability of honors and Advanced Placement courses and the total number of college preparatory course available, among other indicators of the resources available within the school. When appropriate and feasible, they look comparatively at the achievements of applicants in the same pool who attended the same high school and therefore might be expected to have similar opportunities and challenges. They also consider other contextual factors that bear directly on the applicant’s achievement, including linguistic background, parental education level, and other indicators of support available in the home. **</p>

<p>The review also recognizes a wide range of talent and creativity that is not necessarily reflected in traditional measures of academic achievement but which, in the judgment of the reader, is a positive indicator of the student’s ability to succeed at Berkeley and beyond; to contribute meaningfully and uniquely to intellectual and social interchanges with faculty and fellow students, both inside and outside the classroom; and to make a special contribution to our society and culture. In applying the criteria above, readers carefully consider evidence provided in the personal statement, as well as in the academic record and list of honors and achievements. For example, the essay may reveal a level of maturity and ability to reflect on one’s life experience in relation to the larger world that indicates a high potential to benefit from and contribute to the richness of the intellectual life of the campus. Or it may reveal special qualities of leadership and initiative that indicate unique potential to contribute to the intellectual, social and political life of the State and Nation. *</p>

<p>Source: <a href=“http://students.berkeley.edu/admissions/freshmen.asp?id=56&navid=N[/url]”>http://students.berkeley.edu/admissions/freshmen.asp?id=56&amp;navid=N&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>So, you see, Berkeley considers the kind of high school the applicant has attended, and I hope this ends the rumors that they don’t.</p>

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If those Cornell kids come from more competitive high schools, they would have scored higher on SATs, don’t you think? But why does Berkeley have higher SAT scores than Cornell has? It does not make sense to me.</p>

<p>Now, to recapitulate, Berkeley requires that their high school applicants come from the best of their graduating class, or they’re busted. Cornell does not require that. So, even if you’re not smart in high school, or you’re just an average student in your class, you still have a chance to get into Cornell. But it’s something impossible to do at Berkeley, unless you are a star student such as star athlete perhaps. Now, after every applicant has been filtered and screened using their HS achievement rank, comes test scores, then ECs and essays. It’s a grueling and tedius process and every single detail about the applicant is viewed and reviewed throughly. Again, even if you’re just an ordinary student in HS, you would still get into Cornell. Something that’s almost impossible to happen at Berkeley. Therefore, berkeley is harder to get into than Cornell.</p>

<p>haha didn’t mean to start an argument. I was always under the impression that Cornell was in between UCLA and Berkeley in terms of difficulty of admission.</p>

<p>but do you guys think i have a chance at those schools??</p>

<p>As it stands, it’s too early to tell, but you have the likelihood of getting accepted to all three great insitutions based on your initial data and determination to succeed. Your very high GPA and great ECs will get you into Berkeley and UCLA. Your very high SATs and great ECs are perhaps what wll get you into Cornell. But then again, you still haven’t told us what your intended major was. Applying to any of these schools are departmental in approach. for example, it’s easier to get into L&S than CoE at Berkeley. I believe engineering is also the toughest program to get onto at Cornell.</p>