Who has a better chance???

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>Plz chance us for MIT, Stanford, Caltech, harvard, Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth
Plz chance us based only on our stats.</p>

<p>Candidate 1</p>

<p>Background Information
~ From: TX
~ Race/Ethnicity: unknown for fair competition</p>

<p>Current School
---- ranked 14 out of 1150
~ Cumulative Unweighted Average: 3.88~3.89
~ Cumulative weighted Average: 4.27~4.33 don remember</p>

<p>Classes Taken & to be Taken
~ Sophomore Year
---- Honors English, alg 2, geometry, world history, chem
---- Regular span 1 (no honors span 1 in my school)
---- Tested out of pre-calc over sophomore summer
---- doesn’t allow us to take AP during sophomore year.
~ Junior Year
---- AP Chemistry, physics B, calc AB, English Language, US History
---- Honors Span 2
~ Senior Year
---- AP Calc BC, English Literature, gov, econ, physics C, stat/prob
---- Honors Span 3
---- might drop stat/prob and take multivariable calc at local university</p>

<p>Standardized Test Scores
~ SAT Scores (took twice)
---- Math: 800
---- Reading: 740
---- Writing: 800 Essay: 12
~ SAT II Scores
---- Chinese: 750 (not my native language), (one year of experience)
---- US History: 780
---- Math 2: 800
---- Physics: 760
~ AP
---- AP Eng Lang: 4
---- AP Physics B: 5
---- AP US History: 5
---- AP Calc AB: 5
---- AP Chemistry: 5</p>

<p>~ AMC 12
---- got the exact score for the cut so didn’t make it to AIME. the score was 97.5? something like that.</p>

<p>Extracurricular Activities
~ University Interscholastic League (10~12)
(my main activity)
---- it’s like academic competition and I was the leader in my school.
---- a lot of local awards (between 20~30 awards)
---- some major awards including getting 10th place in texas for number sense.
---- did science, math, and number sense.
---- organized summer sessions.
~ Band (9~12)
---- have been in top 2 bands
---- equipment manager for this upcoming year
~ Peer tutoring club (11~12)
---- vice president for this upcoming year
---- taught about 5 hrs every month
~ President’s Council (12)
---- have a leadership position for this upcoming year
---- this is a new org so we are basically like the starters.
~ DECA (11~12)
---- Exective Assistance this upcoming year
---- went to state competition for entrepreneurship written event
~ EPGY (2009)
---- did quantum mechanics. learned a lot of advanced stuff.
~ Community Service (9~12)
---- as mentioned above, about 30~40 hours from tutoring
---- 10 hours from local nursing home
---- 11 hours from local library aide (maybe will do more during school year)</p>

<p>Work
~ Grocery Store
---- worked as a bagger from June 2008 to December 2008.</p>

<p>Mischellaneous
---- National Merit Commended.
---- Some form of AP Scholar dunno which one.</p>

<p>Recommendations
~ AP physics teacer
~ AP calc Teacher
~ honors Spanish 2 Teacher (not sure about this one)</p>

<p>Candidate 2</p>

<p>Background Information
~ From: TX
~ Race/Ethnicity: unknown for fair competition</p>

<p>Current School
---- ranked 3 out of 700
~ Cumulative Unweighted Average: ~95.5
~ Cumulative weighted Average: 100.0 </p>

<p>Classes Taken & to be Taken
~ Sophomore Year
---- AP Statistics
---- HONORS Computer Science
---- HONORS Algebra 2
---- HONORS Chemistry
---- HONORS English 2
---- Honors World History
---- French 2
tested out of precal during the summer
~ Junior Year
---- AP Calculus AB
---- AP Computer Science A
---- AP Chemistry
---- AP Biology
---- AP English Language
---- AP U.S. History
---- AP Spanish Language
---- Honors Physics
~ Senior Year
---- AP Calculus C (Stanford’s EPGY Online high school Course that covers what Cal BC covers but Cal AB dosent
---- Elementary Number Theory (Stanford’s EPGY Online High School)
---- AP Physics C Electricity/Magnetism (Stanford’s EPGY OHS)
---- AP English Literature
---- AP Government
---- AP Macro-Economics
---- French 3
---- Research and Design class ( Basically to do Science Fair)</p>

<p>Standardized Test Scores
~ SAT Scores
---- Math: 800
---- Reading: 610
---- Writing: 670 Essay: 9
~ SAT II Scores
---- Math Level 2: 800
---- Spanish without listening: 800
---- Chemistry: 650
~ AP
---- AP Calculus AB: 5
---- AP Statistics: 5
---- AP Spanish Language: 5
---- AP Physics C Mechanics (Challenged without taking class): 4
---- AP Computer Science A: 4
---- AP Spanish Literature (Challenged without taking class): 4
---- AP Eng Lang: 4
---- AP Physics B (Challenged without taking class): 3
---- AP Chemistry: 3
---- AP U.S.History: 3</p>

<p>Extracurricular Activities
~ Science Fair (9~12)
---- 2nd Place State Science Fair 2009
~ National Honor Society (10~12)
---- Member for 3 years
---- Historian Junior Year
---- Vice President Senior Year
Gifted and Talented Program (GT) (1~12)
---- 1998-2009, basically a program for smart kids.
~ University Interscholastic League (UIL) (10~12)
---- it’s like academic competition and I was the leader in my school.
---- several local awards (between 5-10 awards)
---- did computer science, calculator, math, and number sense.
~ Varsity Orchestra (9)
---- Was in Varsity Orchestra during Freshmen Year
~ Varsity Choir (9)
---- Varsity Choir during Freshme Year
~ Varsity Cross Country (10)
---- Did varsity Cross Country for a semester and was killed. ☺
~ Community Service (9~12)
---- Total Amount of Hours ~ 300-400
in NHS, Another type Honor Society that cannot be mentioned for fair competition, Student Council, and independet community Service.</p>

<p>Work
~ August 2007- Present
---- Independent Translator. This summer I translated the student handbook for my school and about 4 more academic documents. I do about 200 hours per year.
May 2008-July 2008
---- CommunityScholars Paid Internship. Did public policy research on the subprime mortgage crisis and published a report that’s online. Did 35 hours a week.
August 2008- Present
---- South Texas Soccer Referee. I referee games that involve players from the age of 6 to 18. Do about two games per week during soccer seasons</p>

<p>Summer/Academic Programs
---- Young Engineering Science Scholars (YESS) Program at Caltech. Very Competitive, 30 out of 750+ get in. 2009
---- EPGY Quantum Mechanics Course. 2009
---- Governor’s Science and Technology Champions Academy. State science fair winners attend this. 2009
---- National Youth Leadership Forum on National Security. Fall 2008.</p>

<p>Recommendations
~ AP Calculus Teacher. ( Only one that passed the test in his class, with a 5. Everyone else failed. Known him for 2 years
~ AP Spanish Teacher. ( have learned a lot of Translation skills from him. Known him for 2 years.
~ A graduate student that is a physicists at Caltech. (Met him at the YESS Program and we have a great relationship.</p>

<p>Other Awards or Recognitions
---- 1st place Team Regional Science Fair
---- Commended PSAT Student
----Society of Mexican American Engineers and Scientist Scholarships and Award banquet (2009)
----Mu Alpha Theta Award for the Best Mathematical Science Fair Project (2009)
----Hall of Fame Award for the Collegiate World Series
---- District Orchestra Solo and Ensemble University Scholastic League of 1 (Best score possible) (2006, 2007)
---- State Orquestra Solo and Ensemble University Scholastic League Qualafier (2007)
---- 1st Place Team Quest (Gifted and Talented G/T) (2008)
---- 4th Place Team Quest (Gifted and Talented G/T) (2007)
---- 6th Place Montwood High School Bughouse Chess Tournament (2006)
---- 4th Place University Interscholastic League Number Sense District Competition (2008)
• </p>

<p>NHS Group Awards
• DifferenceMaker Award (2007)
• Outstanding Service Project Award (2007)
• Outstanding Service Project Award (2008)
• Outstanding Project of the Year Award (2007)
• Salvation Army Outstanding Volunteer Award
• Golden Kettle for Bell Ringing Salvation Army</p>

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<p>Candidate 2 by a fairly decent margin.
That science award is pretty hefty.
NYLF isn’t that special at all, anyone who pays up can get in.</p>

<p>Candidate 1 has many time-light EC’s (5 hours of tutoring a month isn’t all that impressive).
Candidate 2’s ECs are far more focused, thus I’d say he/she has a better chance</p>

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<p>bump. Awesome Thread</p>

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<p>Neither candidate has a good chance at those schools. If i have to pick one, then candidate 1.</p>

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<p>please bump</p>

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<p>It’d be nice if you guys tell us what major you guys are applying into and the ethnic background of both, but IMO with what you guys shared…</p>

<p>candidate 2 wins by a slight margin, although I give you both low to med. chances of any of the above, depending on the major you’re applying to.</p>

<p>1 has the better standardized test scores, but 2, even though he/she bombed the sat 2’s, makes up for it in awards, and course rigidity. And to candidate 1: don’t put that you only worked June 08 to Dec 08; sorta gives the impression of lack of determination and consistency. In your actual apps, it will come down to the essays to say who will get in for sure.</p>

<p>A suggestion to both, get some more athletic awards or more participation. Good luck to both!</p>

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<p>“even though he/she bombed the sat 2’s”</p>

<p>Do you live in a bubble?</p>

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<p>me .</p>

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<p>@ Akrana: what do you mean if I live in a bubble? 650 on sat 2 chemistry is a… well… yea. So what you getting at?</p>

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<p>submitting the SATII when you dont have atleast a 700 calls for the LULZ.</p>

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<p>Agree on smilemyonly.
I’d pick the second guy because of his ECs.</p>

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thx</p>

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<p>candidate 2 has really good ECs
but for IVY leagues, standardized test scores are of great importance
2340 is good, then it depends on the essays
cand.2 2080 is not decent, still it is hard to say(cuz AOs of those colleges ARE hard to predict)</p>

<p>and this is a nice chance thread
chance me back
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/760155-chance-me-lacs-rice.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/760155-chance-me-lacs-rice.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Candidate 2 IMO has a good shot at those colleges. What is your point, that race helps?</p>

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<p>So I am candidate 2 and I forgot to mention that I am a national hispanic scholar. This tells you that I am hispanic, however, candidate 1 is Asian. Please reconsider our chances by knowing this. Finally, if you could please predict my chances if I take the ACT and get a 32+ and take the physics subject test and get a 750+. Will that assure me entrance into these?
Thanks</p>

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<p>it will not “assure”, but you certainly have a high chance of getting into thoes top colleges. good job :)</p>

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<p>this would increase the possibility of your entrance, of course
BTW how does the difference between hispanic and asian candidates matter?</p>

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<p>as an asian, the competition is 10X more intense
as a hispanic, the competition becomes baby-level</p>

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<p>bump plz!!!</p>

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<p>please bump</p>

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<p>@ waitatshu</p>

<p>Where in the world did you pull out that number? Even as a jest, you can’t quantify the intensity for ORM, and to more thoroughly answer CUCU’s question, the general culture of East Asian countries lean towards success towards education, which is where the stereotypes of hard-working Asians originate. </p>

<p>In addition, you have to consider the demographics. Abotu 4% of the US population is of Asian decent, but Asians represent 18.5% of students in college campuses. See the disproportionality? </p>

<p>I can’t say for other the races, but underrepresented minorities, such as Africans and Hispanics, are favored within selective institutions for the sake of “diversity,” called affirmative action. Denying/admitting candidates based on their race is within the moral gray area, and is hotly disputed among education officials, and of course, College Confidential.</p>