<p>Please post stats and if you used their application, not the CA, and if you used the fee waiver. Also, if you got the mistake email and follow up. </p>
<p>Used Fordham application and fee waiver they sent, (I never thought I would get in based on stats but they kept begging, and it was free)
Got mistake acceptance email and then the "bad" follow up email
Status : Deferred.
GPA. 3.5/4.0<br>
ACT 26
People are talking about the theory of padding application numbers?? Thoughts?</p>
<p>It has become a common practice among colleges to use various devices to shift some of the applications processing burden to the fall. Especially since the Common App has become common currency, colleges are buried by applications.</p>
<p>Students sometimes feel an invitation to apply is personal, but, generally speaking, it is not.</p>
<p>Best wishes on your journey.</p>
<p>It’s interesting to me that (apparently) a lot of “Your Choice” app users were deferred.</p>
<p>My son was offered the “Your Choice” app but when he began filling it out, it became apparent to us that Fordham would not know as much about him using that streamlined app as with the Common App, so he switched back and used the Common App for Fordham.</p>
<p>He got in; but he is also a NMSF with a weighted GPA of 4.33 from a Jesuit HS, with 2290 SAT, 790-800 SAT IIs, 5s on APs, etc. So I think he was a very strong candidate anyway, but I wonder whether someone who was on the borderline might not be better served by the Common App, which seemed to allow for more information about honors/awards, extracurriculars, etc.</p>
<p>I used their free Your Choice application. Never received any of the invalid e-mails from the outside financial aid company.
ACT: 28
GPA: 3.55/4.0
I am in the Advanced Program at a top private Catholic high school in Kentucky, 6 AP’s.
Typical honors student extra-curriculars, cross country, student tutoring, track, Beta Club, 70+ service hours, etc.
However, I showed them that Fordham was my top choice by visiting over my fall break and personally speaking with the director of undergraduate admission. I also killed the essay and had some pretty solid recommendations. </p>
<p>Your GPA seems fine for Fordham if you are in honors/advanced classes. However, your ACT score was lacking. I most likely would not have been accepted by Fordham with my 28 if I had not made it clear that it was my top choice. A 26 is still a solid score! You will be able to get into some very good universities with it! Good luck on your college search!</p>
<p>My son used Common App fee waiver and was deferred.</p>
<p>SATs of 1300/1880
ACT of 28
GPA–3.8 W
Lots of APs, the rest are Honors classes.
Works P/T job
Lots of Volunteer work
Involved in HS TV studio
I’m fairly certain his recommendations were great.</p>
<p>If you were deferred, don’t despair. Two years ago, my older son was also deferred EA, and then accepted RD and offered a $20,000 merit scholarship.</p>
<p>My D used the common application and fee waiver. She got accepted, in fact she was told by email in November that she had been admitted.</p>
<p>Used the common app, never got a fee waiver. (Probably because I didn’t indicate any interest until I actually applied.)
Deferred to rd round.
GPA:3.4
SAT: 1950
ECs were pretty good; sports & club leadership, job and whatnot, essay was very good. </p>
<p>@simx38 did your older son have outstanding stats? I was informed by some that Fordham is pretty stingy with aid despite being ridiculously expensive.</p>
<p>Em 1994 your stats are solid. Kvothefan, I wish you could’ve seen the many, many mailings and emails I received saying, “you are just the kind of student Fordham is looking for, please use our application and fee-waiver for priority decision.” I am glad their huge screw-up made the news. They should be embarrassed and deserve a little crap for the 2500 stressed out seniors that they messed with!!! I feel so bad for all the hopefuls that were disappointed by this inexcusable mistake.</p>
<p>Those fee waiver things are done by many colleges in order it incite students to apply. Is it frustrating? Yes. However, it is no reason to throw hate at the school. Please don’t act like Fordham is the only school this has happened with, because it isn’t.</p>
<p>Reader13. You obviously were not one of us hurt by Fordham’s mistake. I can only report and relay my own frustrations as Fordham was very, very persistent in getting me to apply. I am not acting like Fordham is the only school that sends out fee waivers. However, it is the ONLY school that contacted ME to apply with a red carpet promise and I believed enough in myself to think I had something special to offer. I am justified in feeling disappointment. This was a national, newsworthy, notable, bad Fordham mistake that affected many, not just me. I am just trying to make sense of it and looking for a common thread. I am not naive at all, none of the 2500 of us that were duped are. I am certainly not “throwing hate”. I am merely disappointed by a faulty system that has confused and hurt many hopefuls. But, the lack of support from people like you, just adds insult to our injury.</p>
<p>all sorts of conspiracy theorists abound at admission time. The EA is notorious for admitting very high stats people, even though 11,000 apply. Its a numbers game, not a fee waiver game.</p>
<p>The way to get off the deferral list and admitted in RD is to tell them if they are number one on your list and be genuine and then supplement your application with better grades and perhaps a retake of the SAT.</p>
<p>The profile is published every year. If you are not above 70% profile, then you run the risk of being deferred, while being below 50th percentile is almost certainly a denial. Those above 75percentile get admitted. In RD as the pool shows its scores, they admit students often closer to the 50-60th percentile and up. But I have no figures on that, its just anecdotal.</p>
<p>Nobody got duped. It was a third party mistake and mistakes happen even at prestigious schools. </p>
<p>Being bitter and posting comments may not help you, and its wasted energy. Try again and in the meantime go to plan B…match schools for your scores.</p>
<p>Fordham is very very competitive. Good luck.</p>
<p>Decorator, I do understand your pain. I know it feels personal. I wish we could have had a talk about colleges and their marketing, perhaps as long ago as last August. The marketing materials have little or nothing to do with you as an individual.</p>
<p>You are a desirable student, and everything you said about your qualifications is true. The mailings you received were not a “come on,” but encouragement to apply, though not personal. In looking at your posted stats and comparing them against Fordham’s “middle 50” - they are a little low. Generally speaking, early admits are the stronger students, with higher stats, as Soverign states in detail. In that context, your application was deferred. Not denied, but deferred.</p>
<p>The mailings may have felt especially personal to you because, as you say, Fordham was the only college you received this kind of encouragement from. I promise you, however, that many do this. My own children, along with thousands of others across the country, received “personal letters” from Yale, Swarthmore, Princeton, UChicago (endlessly), and West Point. These are all “lottery schools,” which routinely deny applications stronger than my girls’ would have been, and also accept students very similar to them. But the invitation to apply has no bearing, at all, on admissions chances.</p>
<p>If you really do believe that Fordham is an excellent match for you, do those extra things to improve your candinacy. If you were just applying on a lark, doing so is not worith your time. In any event, there are any number of places you can get a great education and be happy. Good luck!</p>
<p>I’ll just like to say Fordham truly is holistic in their review. Seriously. It’s not a numbers game. My friend and I both dreamed of going to Fordham and our numbers weren’t exactly on-par, but we had a very well-rounded application (extracurricular, essay, recommendations, etc) and both got accepted.</p>
<p>I don’t know what she did, but I applied through the Common App and used the fee waiver there. Fordham was always my dream college, but honestly… I just used the Common App for convenience and because it included more information. Didn’t feel like completing another app and including less information. Plus the essay prompts were different on the streamlined thing.</p>
<p>Also – don’t blame Fordham for “padding” numbers. A LOT of universities do this.</p>
<p>Decorator, I go to Fordham, so yes I wasn’t hurt by their mistake. However, I do feel sympathy for you, but you have voiced your disappointment enough times that you have gotten your point across. Also you got deferred, so you still have a chance of getting in RD. So, best of luck to you. </p>
<p>My point about throwing hate on Fordham is that the other colleges have made this mistake and it has not made the news. Also it has happened on a larger scale. So my question is why is Fordham so special that needs to be put on the news? Is it because it’s a religious institution and the media feels the need to downgrade it? Or did someone just decide to take the time and report it? One girl was interviewed last night who was deferred, but very accepting of the answer and was very mature in her response about the whole issue. Some of those who this also happened to could take a lesson from her.</p>