Why do UC schools lack undergraduate business programs?

<p>Ive had to settled for a CSU because business is my passion and no UC schools in SoCal offer it except for UCR.. And UCR only seems to offer a general Business Admin (with no emphasis) degree which is typically not very practical compared to accounting, finance, MIS, etc..</p>

<p>UCI and UCR offer Bus Admin. UCSB and UCLA offer Bus Economics.</p>

<p>^ Im not interested in economics major and business administration (which used to be my major) has been proving to not be the most practical of business degrees. Im now an MIS major. I might double major in accounting as well.</p>

<p>I wanted to go to a UC so bad but am VERY disappointed at their lack of business programs</p>

<p>The UCs are intended for academic study and abstract concepts. The CSUs are intended to issue degrees that are applicable to real world careers (California Master Plan for Higher Education). Something as practical as a business degree fits in with the CSU’s philosophy, not the UCs.</p>

<p>I am pretty sure you will see more in the future since it is in high demand. Most UC’s have accounting minors now. UCSD just started theirs like 2 years ago. The only UC that doesn’t offer an accounting program is UCD. Other than that schools either have a full business program or accounting minor or econ/accounting.</p>

<p>Honestly, I think a good accounting program is sufficient enough. That is what really attracts business employers to the school.</p>

<p>The only thing the UC’s are lacking is MIS programs. Only UCI and UCR offers MIS.</p>

<p>mmsiphone - that has always been my assumption</p>

<p>iTransfer - since when did UCSD have an undergraduate accounting program? and since when did UCI and UCR have MIS programs? I dont see it anywhere on their websites…</p>

<p>[Rady</a> School Undergrad: Accounting Minor](<a href=“http://rady.ucsd.edu/undergrad/accounting-minor/]Rady”>http://rady.ucsd.edu/undergrad/accounting-minor/)</p>

<p>UCSD offers accounting minor.
Just found out that they recently added a “business” minor.</p>

<p>UCI’s BIM
[University</a> of California, Irvine | The Paul Merage School of Business - BS Business Information Management](<a href=“http://merage.uci.edu/Undergrad/Content/BS-Business-Information-Management/248]University”>Undergraduate Overview | Paul Merage School of Business | UCI)</p>

<p>UCR has business admin with concentration in MIS
[Undergraduate</a> Business Program: Information Systems](<a href=“Business Administration Major | School of Business”>Business Administration Major | School of Business)</p>

<p>The thing about business is that you don’t need to major in business.</p>

<p>Marketing jobs asks for any major not just “marketing”.</p>

<p>Finance hires a variety of majors like econ, math, and engineering.</p>

<p>MIS hires computer science majors.</p>

<p>Accounting is really the only thing where either you need to be an accounting major or have taken accounting classes. </p>

<p>So having a good accounting program at the school is good enough. The other fields can be complemented with other majors.</p>

<p>Thanks for the UCR link, I was not able to find it. I dont want to do coding all day so CS is out of the question. Plus all of my general requirements have been done for business. CIS (not MIS) is more similar to CS. I want to be involved in management, as a systems analyst, then as a IS manager. I dont want to be a primary programmer and I figured MIS is perfect for what I want to do. Again, my passion is business. I want to learn about the practical business world specifically, something I wont learn nearly as much from engineering or math.</p>

<p>I also need a major in business, not minor. I guess UCR and maybe UCI is the only option for UC. Problem is I live in SD and can only afford to commute from home. I wish UCSD would offer it.</p>

<p>Is UCI’s BIM program equivalent to IS?</p>

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<p>It has more like computer science and MIS.</p>

<p>UCI also offers business admin with concentration in management: information system</p>

<p>[The</a> Paul Merage School of Business](<a href=“UCI General Catalogue Archives”>UCI General Catalogue Archives)</p>

<p>It is BIM without the programming classes. Just the MIS/IT classes and general business.</p>

<p>However, UCI business program is very difficult to get into as a transfer. So good luck.</p>

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<p>If this is the case, I would just go to SDSU and do MIS. If you are willing to be flexible with your major then go to UCSD.</p>

<p>I agree with itransfer. If your looking to gain a very specific skill set as an undergrad (other than accounting), go to cal state. UC programs are meant to prep you for grad studies. Cal States are meant to give you a specific skill you can immediately apply to the real world. However, when it comes to finding work with just a bachelor’s degree, degrees in Business and Econ are interchangeable.</p>

<p>“I also need a major in business, not minor. I guess UCR and maybe UCI is the only option for UC. Problem is I live in SD and can only afford to commute from home. I wish UCSD would offer it.”</p>

<p>I’d much rather go to UCSD over CSUSM. I live in San Marcos and I’m majoring in Bus Admin - Accounting. UCSD’s minor in Accounting is not good enough, and CSUSM’s Accounting program isn’t renown and that school isn’t worth all the time and effort I’ve put into my coursework to get a 4.0. I’ve also heard that CSUSM has a 2500 word per class requirement ***** that. I’m not moving anywhere, and don’t want the commute. SDSU is the best & closest option. I guess me and you are stuck there :)</p>

<p>Hopefully I get accepted(I have a 4.0 ^^^) but I’ve read some post of people getting rejected with 3.6 and 3.8 and are planning on Accounting. </p>

<p>Best of luck to you.</p>

<p>iTransfer - Do you think a 3.74 GPA is good enough to transfer to UCI?</p>

<p>USMC - Why would I want to go to a UC for accounting instead of a CSU? I dont even kno what UCs offer accounting major programs. Im actually planning to earn an MBA w/ an emphasis in IS at SDSU after I earn my BS. I want to get some work experience first though. I want a management position. Also about the degrees in business being interchangeable, I dont see how accounting or IS can be interchangeable with other business undergrad degrees. Do other business programs (such as general management, or econ) teach you how to do accounting or general coding/programming?</p>

<p>MPaluba - You will be accepted with a 4.0… 100%. It was hard to get in during 08-09 but it has since been much easier to get into SDSU.</p>

<p>^ I meant that general Business Admin degrees and Econ are interchangeable. Accounting and IS are specific skill sets. Cal States or even trade schools are your best option for these degrees. </p>

<p>I got into multiple cal states for Business Admin (my original major) and could’ve chosen from a myriad of concentrations. I chose UCSD for Econ because I wanted to be in the most competitive learning environment possible and because none of the concentrations interested me. I want to pursue and MBA and I feel UCSD has prepared me to be competitive in admissions and to be successful in my studies.</p>

<p>During my job search (finance/management/gen business) I found that no one really cared what your degree was. As long as you ha a degree in something business related you were an eligible candidate. Accounting/MIS is a different story. I know there are a lot of accounting jobs, not sure about MIS. In this economic climate, I personally wouldn’t pigeon hole myself to a specific type of job/field.</p>

<p>MIS jobs include systems analysts and network administrators. They are in relatively high demand though not as high as accounting.</p>

<p>[Computer</a> Systems Analysts](<a href=“http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes151121.htm]Computer”>http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes151121.htm)
[Network</a> and Computer Systems Administrators*](<a href=“http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes151142.htm]Network”>http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes151142.htm)
[url=&lt;a href=“http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes113021.htm]Computer”&gt;http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes113021.htm]Computer</a> and Information Systems Managers<a href=“this%20one%20will%20likely%20require%20an%20MBA”>/url</a></p>

<p>I feel like the UC’s focus most of their efforts on contributing to the public good (research, service, etc). Turning out a bunch of Business Admin grads who are mostly focused on making money doesn’t seem like it would help achieve this goal.</p>

<p>Economics is ideal for the UC’s because it allows for research and service while still preparing students to enter into an MBA program. It seems like Econ majors tend to be more socially responsible whereas Business Admin majors are not.</p>

<p>SMCguy pretty much summed it up.</p>