<p>So far, you've tried to defend Brown by referring to other irrelevant examples that doesn't quite explain your positions of why Brown is a jack of all trades school that is master of none.</p>
<p>The original question of this thread is, why is Brown almost always never *mentioned* in threads such as top economics, top international relations, etc....</p>
<p>You have so referred to Princeton, MIT, New Haven, Boston, Amherst, Vassar, Columia, UChicago, and Berkeley.</p>
<p>We are not talking about those schools, they are truly irrelevant if you want to use them as examples in a defense argument of what Brown is not often talked about in the aforementioned threads.</p>
<p>like, stop pointing to other colleges, it has nothing to do with other colleges. Answer the OP's question. ::roll eyes::</p>
<p>NEWSFLASH, in case you haven't noticed, this thread has degraded into a playground of insults directed at Brown and it's "unique" approach to learning.
Referencing other schools that are similar to Brown is purely for the purpose of silencing certain "opinionated" members. </p>
<p>So when someone bashes Brown for not having a law or business school, how could one not mention Princeton? </p>
<p>I don't really understand the Brown hate here. Sure it isn't HYPSM, but no school outside of those 5 are. Brown surely is unique as it is a national university that offers an Open Curriculum. But since when is that a bad thing? </p>
<p>I mean the argument that its for lazy people is quite absurd. Just look at the admission standards at Brown. Surely one of the top ten most selective schools in the country (based off admissions rate) isn't really attracting lazy people. In fact it mostly attracts the opposite, people who have such a varied interests in academics, that they want to have the ability to select exactly what they learn. If you wanted a Core similar to Columbia or Chicago, no one at Brown is stopping you from structuring your schedule to emulate one. </p>
<p>Lay off on the hate speech people, brown should get its props</p>
<p>This is ridiculous, especially coming from you Phead. The number of top ranked subjects a school has does not equal how good it is, whatever Berkeley supporters may say. I will reiterate what I said earlier. Brown is great for its broad excellence across the spectrum, its very strong student body, its unique curriculum, its selectivity and its reputation, which makes it all make it very successful in grad placement and a hot spot for recruiters. I don't think the fact that I could be learning political science at Brown instead of say Michigan (everyone says its very good there) will matter at all. I bet it will not make any difference at all in what I learn or how I feel about the course. I mean your learning the same thing, who cares if its ranked number 1 or number 15, when were discussing schools like this. Department rankings for undergrad are overplayed, they are much more important in grad school, when they directly affect your employment. I would say a majority of ivy league kids major in something wholly unrelated to their future career choice anyway. So why does that matter if they are top for IR, as long as they are good and offer the kind of broad, liberal arts education you are seeking. A college is much more about one subject, and thats why Brown is such a great University.</p>
<p>As we all know Brown's an Ivy. I think it's an amazing school. But when you hear good school's mentioned or top programs/departments, Brown's rarely on there. (i.e. top international relations program, or top economic programs, etc.)
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<p>Bescraze, Of course, Departmental ranking is overplayed. Why else would the OP ask such a question. I'm merely addressing the heart of the issue. Why isn't Brown barely mentioned in any of these threads? Departmental rankings is thats why. I mean, its not ridiculous. Get a hold of yourself. The answer is thats why!</p>
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<p>Why does it matter, Ask the OP. Dude, Do you even read the original question that is being asked? I never doubted Brown's strong reputation as an Ivy league school, high caliber students with excellent SAT scores, extreme selectivity, essentiall everything you've just said.</p>
<p>I'm merely addressing the heart of the question. I don't know what your talking about.</p>
<p>So what, Even if Brown is an excellent all around fantastic university (I never argued against this point, I have no idea what you are talking about), It is not a top school in those areas, THAT is why its not mentioned in threads concerning top whatever. </p>
<p>I'm simply answering the OP's question, whether you like it or not, Why don't you try to attempt to answer it huh Bescraze.</p>
<p>Rather than rationalizing whether or not Brown is a top school based on the number of top programs (a whole separate subject in it of itself), Why is Brown not represented or is rarely mentioned in "top threads"?</p>
<p>Ok[, not really sure what the recent thread discussion is about because i have not read it .. but to answer the OP.
I can give you an international perspective of why Brown is overlooked often where i live. People here, first of all, are not very knowledgeable about American Universities other than HYPSM and maybe two or three others that everyone hears about. Dartmouth is known to some of my friends because of the movie Superbad. Brown, U Penn and Columbia is rarely mentioned here because it is overshadowed by the 'higher Ivys' which are often the best at many things. Sometimes, being a well rounded school does not garner as much attention because people see the rankings and immediately look at number 1.</p>
<p>I am not sure why it is never discussed in the States but i feel this is why it's never discussed up in Canada. </p>
<p>As for CC, i am guessing its for similar reasons.</p>
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<p>You could. But I doubt you'd find such happy, laid back kids who like to learn for the sake of learning (and even for fun), but who still like to kick off their shoes and play hard as well. This is a post of Alumother's that I found on this forum, which I absolutely heart (it's about Brown):</p>
<p>The difference between the uber-smart at Brown and at other places:</p>
<p>(1) their freedom to delve into their passions, particularly if they have multiple, divergent passions. Thanks to the open curriculum, Brown students can easily double-major, pursue independent/cross disciplinary study, etc. Anyone who has lots of intellectual loves but no one clear path as yet will be in <em>heaven</em> at Brown because it is truly the exploratorium (to use a Bay area reference) of the Ivy League.</p>
<p>(2) their lack of overt scariness, despite startling intellectual abilities. Brown students are generally chill, cooperative, and sociable. People are, as a rule, disarmingly nice and normal-- you discover their brilliance later, by surprise. I remember at graduation, seeing who'd won the highest academic honors and being VERY surprised by some of the names... certain people who were ultra low key-slash-slackeresque in demeanor, that I would never have guessed were academic superstars, were summa cums...</p>
<p>(3) Overall lack of concern for name-brand aspects of prestige and more affinity for the specific strengths of Brown: the open curriculum, or a specific department, or the very happy social environment, etc.</p>
<p>(4) You get an artsier brand of uber-bright at Brown, and RISD helps that even more. A significant number of my "college friends" are RISD grads whom I met via employment, RISD classes, and off campus housing. RISD and Brown are adjacent and cross-pollinate well. RISD kids are as scary brilliant in creative, right-brain respects as you can possibly imagine.</p>
<p>Phead is going to JHU I believe and feels a little testy that people consider Brown better (contrary to USNWR). He looks at JHU particularly from its academic strength in certain disciplines and fails to see that in Brown and thus looks down upon it. SOme people don't realize that strength in individual subjects at undergrad is not that important at all. O well...</p>
<p>Johns hopkins may have slightly stronger academics in sciences and stuff, but people are much more humane and not nearly as nerdy at Brown. If you want to go to college to deprive yourself of sleep and possibly never leave your dorm room except for going to class, then maybe Johns Hopkins is perfect.</p>
<p>Brown is an ivy for a reason, and it's also harder to get into, so overall it is better than jhu and deserves more credit.</p>
<p>Brown is an Ivy for a REASON? Yeah, you're right. That reason is a decision made sometime in the early 1900s (the original was in 1902) to form a sports league. Brown was not part of that league; it joined later. Please.</p>
<p>Selectivity=quality now? Haha, I think this discussion is frequent on CC. JHU's selectivity does not bar it from having excellent applicants and excellent students. Perhaps they are simply more self-selective than Brown. </p>
<p>And clearly an erroneous proposition and an irrelevancy make Brown better than JHU. Haha, today was pretty boring, so thanks for the laugh.</p>
<p>The first posts in this thread have made me gag. Brown is extremely overrated, and their high acceptances into med school can be traced to the ability to take any and all Brown classes Pass/Fail. Brown's academics programs themselves have no high points in comparison to most schools of 'lower caliber.' The school itself has long benefitted from its Ivy League Status, which covers up a whole lotta nothing.</p>