17 years old, never filed taxes yet I already dislike the IRS? Anyone else had this problem?

My goodness! I think Georgia Tech has more hoops for students to jump through than those poor dolphins at Seaworld have. This is all just to apply for financial aid!

I am fairly sure it has been about a 10 step process.

Anyway, I am now trying to get my VONF transcript to prove to them I have not filed taxes or had other taxable income. The trouble is the IRS hates me!

Both the online options (digital and mail copy) spit out errors and tell me to call them. The problem is when I call them they don’t recognize my social security number!!! There is no IRS number I have found that will let you talk to a human without putting in a social security number… and for some reason because the system literally won’t accept my SSN I am stuck! Both the online and phone tools are dead ends for me.

Mind you I have been putting in the exact same social security number that is on relevant legal documents and the same SSN that I use to login to the FAFSA every time.

I have no clue what the heck is going on.

I have emailed Georgia Tech financial aid and have (as usual) yet to receive a reply from them. I would call except because of my timezone I would have to skip school in order to call them. Even then last time I tried to call their financial aid office it did not go well at all.

What should my next steps be?

Do you live near enough to an IRS office to just go and get the non-filers form?

Your issue is the IRS has NEVER had you in their system…so they don’t “recognize” you when you input this info online.

You can get this in person at an IRS office.

I believe you can also request it by mail…but I’m not sure about that…or how.

Welcome to adulthood!!!

Use this and do it by mail:

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f4506t.pdf

It could take several weeks or longer for you tomget this by mail.

If you can get to an IRS office…really, you can pick it up.

You still have to fill out the form…:wink:

It may be that your SSN has been used in a fraud, so the IRS is doing you a favor by not allowing you to apply by mail. Please go to an IRS office and straighten it out.

Others here who have never filed a tax return have reported the same issue.

The IRS would NOT have you in their system…at all…because you have never filed a tax return. They would not have a SS to match.

Go and pick up the non-filers statement at an IRS office.

Gotta ask…you knew you were a non-filer a LONG time ago. Why didn’t you get this form sooner?

Are you sure about that?

Fill out the form (tonight?) and mail it.

His SS# would have been on parents’ filings as a dependent. Congress keeps cutting IRS’ budget, so they can’t afford to upgrade their computers and services. Because they are able to collect an extra $10 for every extra dollar they are given, makes sense to throw some money at the IRS. Congress makes the confusing tax laws – IRS has to figure out what Congress meant and then find a way to follow those convoluted paths.

I did NOT say a taxpayer assistance center…I said an IRS office. There is a difference.

@planner03 he can’t fill out a form he doesn’t HAVE.

Yes, they would have the match if the parent ever claimed the child as a dependent. I made a mistake with my daughter’s number once and they denied anything I claimed for her (exemption, child credit, child care credit) because the number I used didn’t match her name, and didn’t match MY name.

You can get any form on line.

His issue is that he cannot get into the system online because it does NOT recognize his SS number.

So…he can’t get the form online.

He can’t FILE it online. Anyone can pull up a form and send it in. However, the better way to do it would be go to an IRS office and have the verification of non-filing given to him right there.

Here are the directions for getting it online. I know OP said he tried, but did his process look like this, with setting up an account, getting the emailed code? https://www.sccsc.edu/uploadedFiles/Pages/Costs_and_Financial_Aid/Financial_Aid_Information/Financial_Aid_PDFs/1314SNOrequest.pdf

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f4506t.pdf

No one can file it online. But he says…he can’t get into the system.

I would suggest trying a different browser. Sometimes that does the trick.

I can’t get into the system either as I know I’ve not filed taxes since 2012 due to not working since then. I am just print the form and fax it if my local IRS office doesn’t do the letter there.

@planner03

Also, this student is NOT asking for a tax transcript. He wants a non-filers statement. Two different things.

@Cubby208

we got stonewalled trying to do the VONF letter online and by phone. we then went to local IRS office and got it in less than an hour. at this point you should just go in a handle it with IRS personally…

Call your local IRS office and set up an appointment to get the VONF statement. They’ll give it to you there.

@thumperI I assume that the OP is astute enough to be able to print the form out from irs.gov.

I didn’t say you were wrong. If you take a look at my post, I was asking you if you were sure because I didn’t want the OP to make a trip that might not pan out when they could have easily put the form in the mail this morning. And who knows how far an IRS office is, when they would be free to get there during business hours, or if they even have transportation? My kids could definitely not get to an IRS office.

I was just trying to help. Aren’t we all supposed to have the same objective here? If I was wrong I was wrong- no big deal, but why do you need to be unpleasant? Not just to me but to the OP as well?

Like this for example:

WHY do you gotta ask?

“WHY do you gotta ask?”

Because the time crunch makes this harder than it needed to be. A little proactivity goes a long way in this process, and in life. A lesson for the future.