<p>it gives you a tentative time for the second part of your audition when you comfirm your audition date. It came to me in an email. </p>
<p>On jan. 14th, I'm from 8:30-10:00 for dance, and then I have to wait until 5:30 for my monologue/song audition... talk about an agonizingly long wait...</p>
<p>babar - I think there is a whole separate thread on unifieds. One must set up appointments with each school individually, and each school has a different method for doing so. You will find lots of previous discussion on this if you search.</p>
<p>Thank you for replying! That is so kind! Well, if a student has an audition in NYC the weekend of the unifieds, then is it considered a unified audition or an audition for that school?</p>
<p>If that college is not a member of UNIFIEDS, it is considered an audition for that school and a "piggy back" on the UNIFIEDS' date and location. </p>
<p>There are a set group of colleges who subscribe to the UNIFIEDS. The complete list is on the Otterbein website.</p>
<p>Good luck, by the way!
xxx,Mary Anna</p>
<p>I wouldn't think it would matter if the audition in NYC that day is called a unified audition. All of them are auditions for a particular school.</p>
<p>Thanks! Boy, do I have a wait.</p>
<p>Dance at 8:30am to 10am, and the rest at 5:30pm.</p>
<p>In cruising through an older thread (April '05), it was mentioned that auditions scheduled earlier in the season would allow for adustments based on feedback. Specifically, the poster indicated that a friend had done 10 auditions and had not received positive feedback.</p>
<p>I'm wondering exactly how the auditioner receives feedback from his audition. If the auditioner is not suitable for the program, not at the necessary performance level, etc., do the auditors give him on-the-spot information as such?? Again, I'm just coming from the standpoint of not really knowing how competitive my own S will be. If such feedback is given, then as mentioned in the April '05 post, course corrections can be made and other options explored.</p>
<p>I'm probably the wrong person to help you with this question, since my d only had 1 audition (she applied ED to NYU, so had to cancel her other 8 auditions). She received NO feedback whatsoever! I would have been surprised had she received any feedback, either positive OR negative . Think about it; if they liked what they heard and told her so, but then heard 300 other people after her who were outstanding, and then she didn't get accepted, it makes them look bad! Also, if they thought she WASN'T good, that would only be their opinion, and it doesn't mean she wouldn't get into any other MT school. It would only hurt her self esteem if they told her so. HOWEVER, I am only a parent. I have very little musical/theatrical background. I can't compare my d's talents objectively with anyone else's. I would HOPE that before I blew anywhere from $20K-$40K a year on an MT program that SOMEONE would tell me if she wasn't a good candidate for Musical Theater! I was actually thinking, after many sleepless nights, of calling some of her professors to see if she has a "chance in hell". (I chickened out; my d would kill me!) It's an expensive degree and almost as big an investment as my house! It doesn't matter that much that she got into CAP21. A lot of MT grads can't find jobs after graduating, and that's what scares me! I also know a lot of people who got into GREAT MT schools who I believe aren't that talented. On the flip side, I know plenty who ARE tremendously talented who didn't get in ANYWHERE! So who's to say? Sorry, I'm starting to babble... but to answer your question, I believe that MOST students receive NO feedback at auditions. Perhaps some other parents/students can share what they experienced, as well.</p>
<p>You are absolutely right to have concerns about outrageous tuitions and the additional financial struggle to make a living in this business.</p>
<p>I never encourage anyone to pursue a career in show business, just try to guide and advise those who feel compelled.</p>
<p>It is highly unlikely that a student will get feed back at an audition or even afterwards. The "feedback" might be considered to be acceptance or rejection in the program.</p>
<p>Good luck. I feel your pain.
xxx,Mary Anna</p>
<p>I'll jump in. I would agree that most schools do not give feedback right at the audition. But when I recommend that folks do not audition at their first choice school first (talking regular decision, not ED folks), and that they may profit from seeing how the first auditions go, it doesn't mean that they necessarily are given concrete feedback at the audition. But what CAN happen is that the student can self assess how it went and perhaps readjust something. My D 's first audition was at Emerson and while it seemed to go quite positively, she felt there were some things she wanted to change that she realized after what they asked her to do with the material. She felt her songs did not contrast enough and that her ballad had a little bit of belting in it and her upbeat was already a belt song and so she decided to switch her ballad for all her remaining schools. They even had asked her to sing her ballad a second time as if to a baby (her voice normally projects and this audition room was a tiny space, unlike other schools). It got her to think about changes. Her audition itself went well, it seemed. She got into the school but was deferred for the BFA until RD round (this was for EA) and ultimately got denied for the BFA. She never did use that ballad again. Her second school was UMich and again, it all seemed to go positively and I won't get into the positive aspects now. The school gave decisions out (at least some two weeks later and while she did not hear then, she heard a bit later than that but it was still Feb and she was denied). Another mom here told me that when her D was denied a little earlier, the D had called to ask for any feedback to help her with remaining auditions. I had never thought of that and so my D decided to call and Laura S. at UMich nicely gave her feedback from the audition. Other than that, my D never was given specific feedback but sometimes either "vibes" or else was asked to do a lot or kinda "callbacks"....like Penn State had a callback mode and CMU had her see about four different people in different rooms, four monologues, various songs and what have you. She got into all her remaining schools but was waitlisted at CMU. </p>
<p>RossJi....I'm with your D about not calling NYU to see if they feel she has what it takes to make it in the field. They accepted her and are helping her to develop into a strong candidate for this field. There are no guarantees but her degree will not be in vein. She'll have a degree, she can pursue a career on stage, and if that does not happen, there are many other things she will be equipped to do with her degree. Also, the kids are given feedback in their "reviews" (may be called "demos") each semester and ongoing. Your D can share with you what feedback she is getting about her progress. When you were there on Parent Weekend at CAP, did you meet any of her teachers? My hubby said he met, I think, my D's acting teacher and the director of the program and while they did not necessarily say if they thought she had what it took to "make it", they may have commented on how she was doing, etc. But pretty much, now that they are in college, the feedback goes to the kids, not the parents, lol, and you gotta get that information from your child. </p>
<p>Susan</p>
<p>I have been wondering about getting feedback at auditions also...I know one friend of mine last year did receive very positive feedback immediately after her audition and proceeded to be accepted to the school. A different friend of mine auditioned early at Baldwin Wallace this year, received very positive remarks following his audition (like, still in the audition room), and found out today he was accepted (so excited for him!!). So...I think it does happen sometimes. I guess you just can't read into anything though. I'd love to hear more personal experiences about audition feeback if anyone has any...</p>
<p>Also, for those of you who've gone through the process, just how big are the rooms you usually audition in?? Specifically, at UM in Ann Arbor and the Chicago Unifieds? Susan's mention of the size of the room at Emerson just got me wondering about it.</p>
<p>Those are good specific examples. However it is much more typical that a student would not get feed back at an audition.</p>
<p>There are many different room situations at auditions. If you really want to know (and I do for my students) Call and ask. They will be more than happy to tell you all they know including size of room, who will be auditioning you, and whether there will be a video camera.</p>
<p>xxx,Mary Anna</p>
<p>The rooms at most auditions were large or studio spaces or even stages. The one at Emerson was ridiculously small in my D's view and she found it weird to be singing and to have the people judging her RIGHT there with very little space. She has done a lot of auditions in her life, from school to Broadway and so I think her remark about the room at Emerson stood out for a reason. She also has a loud voice and it did not fit the "setting". My D did not do Unifieds. She is not here to ask about UMich but I'm pretty sure the dance audition was in a dance studio, and then the singing and the acting each had their own rooms, as did the piano portion. She had no complaints about the space anywhere else. </p>
<p>Susan</p>
<p>The singing and acting rooms at UMich are fairly large classrooms.</p>
<p>You didn't ask about this, but at CMU, the vocal auditions are done in the MT voice teachers' offices - QUITE small.</p>
<p>Susan,
You are guessing right about UM. I spoke to my student who auditioned last week and was told the same about the dance, piano, singing and acting audition rooms.</p>
<p>Thanks,
xxx,Mary Anna</p>
<p>Just a caution about feedback....my D got very positive feedback on the spot at one school at the unifieds...small specific compliments about her audition as well as larger more general comments about her aptitude and talent...which led her to be cautiously optimistic. Alas, she was ultimately rejected in April (and it is extremely unlikely that the rejection was because of academic rejection as this was a great theater school but not a great school academically and she had very decent stats). </p>
<p>As has been stated on this board multiple times, one can never read anything into what auditioners say/how they act.</p>
<p>Chris, that is an important message that you wrote to remind folks who are now in the midst of this year's audition season as it is so true.
Susan</p>
<p>Oh gosh, CMU's rooms were so small!:) The guy who auditioned me(don't remember his name) was like "Just go stand all the way in the corner...and don't start coming at me as you sing" It was really funny actually. It didn't make the process any more stressful though just so no one reads this and gets worried. I thought it actually kind of broke the ice a bit!</p>
<p>Just found out today that I passed academic review at UM and got the Feb. 3 audition date!! Such a relief....anyone else there that day?</p>
<p>aspiringactress1...put it on the big list of acceptances if you havent under academic acceptances/invitations to audition...i made it so that people could share their joy...congrats</p>