<p>My son also got the accepted email and then the “oops” email. He was officially deferred. ACT 28, IB diploma candidate, 4.1 weighted GPA. Inexcusable for Fordham to have this happen. There is an article in the NY Times and on NY local news channels. For what its worth-Channel 7 news (NY) was looking on their facebook to speak with students that this happened to.</p>
<p>Fordham deserves more than the bad press over this matter. Fordham needs to stand behind the acceptance notification that went out on Fordham letterhead signed by Senior Admissions at Fordham. End of story. Fordham is certainly not what their PR and Marketing claims them to be as clearly demonstrated.</p>
<p>I don’t agree that “Fordham needs to stand behind the [erroneous] acceptance notification”.</p>
<p>A contractor wrongly sent out an email message to applicants who had NOT been admitted. An unfortunate error, but these things happen (apparently, they happen to at least one school every year). However, Fordham is sticking by their own original assessment of these applicants – which seems to me a reasonable course of action – accompanied by apologies for the erroneous messages.</p>
<p>I know that if they had accidentally sent out a message that we’d all been /denied/, we’d want them to revert to their original true assessment of our /admitted/ status, rather than holding them to an erroneous email…</p>
<p>Now, it you had accepted their offer of admission, paid a deposit, and withdrawn all other applications after RD deadlines – that would be an entirely different matter. That wasn’t anyone’s experience, however.</p>
<p>The email stated Congratulations again on your acceptance to Fordham. That’s pretty clear…</p>
<p>Did you accept the offer? Pay a deposit? No. In any event, all the complaining in the world will not help anyone move on, nor will it change Fordham’s decision.</p>
<p>To clarify those that may me misinformed. I will post what I stated in another thread:
"They weren’t officially accepted. I saw the e-mail myself and it was hardly an acceptance e-mail. The e-mail didn’t even come from a @fordham.edu domain address. It just said on the top line “Congratulations, again, on your acceptance to Fordham University!”. The rest of the body of the e-mail focused on applying for financial aid through the financial assistance company. It was sent out by an outside financial aid company not owned/operated by Fordham University. It was completely out of Fordham’s control when the company sent out their e-mails. Is it a terrible accident? Yes, of course! The acceptance and denial to colleges is one of the biggest concerns for seniors in high school. </p>
<p>If this had been an official e-mail from Fordham, I could understand holding the university more accountable. However, sadly, this happens every year to some applicants from different universities. More so, these colleges sent out the invalid acceptance e-mails themselves! However, Fordham did not. Fordham publicly addressed the issue, increased phone answering staff to help those confused, and sent a follow up e-mail a few hours after the erroneous e-mail was sent stating that the e-mail was not an accurate portrayal of their admission status and that applicants could sign on at 3PM December 12th to check their admission decision. </p>
<p>I truly am sorry for all of those affected by this sad situation and I wish them the absolute best during their college searches."</p>
<p>To compare this situation to something else:
Say you purchase a Toyota Camry. You have the car’s brakes serviced at an outside car maintenance company like Midas or Big O Tires. Three weeks later your brakes fail and you get in a crash. It ends up your brakes had been installed incorrectly. Toyota would not be responsible, Midas or Big O Tires would be responsible as they are the ones that service your car’s brakes. Just like this outside financial aid company (S.A.S) sent out the invalid e-mail, not Fordham.</p>
<p>Yes, the outside agency did send out the email but it took Fordham hours to correct the mistake and not accepting blame for this situation makes them look irresponsible.
Their response speaks volumes. I believe that they should have sent out a neutral email to all applicants who received the “erroneous” email and released the decisions soon after. Sending out a “good” email and a “bad” email leaving those who received the bad email to wait was undeniably unprofessional. I feel as if in that instance applicants were not treated equally, and it resulted in much more trouble than there needed to be. I think the true issue here is the second email. Decisions should have been released universally.</p>
<p>@conflictedb3 I can agree with the second e-mail. It should have been an universal e-mail, as they should have known applicants would get online and post/compare the e-mails. However, I can understand the delayed response of the correction e-mail. Fordham didn’t send the initial erroneous e-mail, therefore they didn’t know anything was wrong. They were most likely bombarded with calls to the admissions office and had no idea what was going on.</p>
<p>Perhaps. I don’t think that it took them very long to find out what had gone on, but I do expect that it took them quite a bit of compromising and many drafts of those emails to figure out how the heck to fix it.</p>
<p>btw all were on Fordham letterhead and signed by Fordham VP of Admissions</p>
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<p>With all due respect, you’re a bit biased here. This has been going on for a long time, and it absolutely does not mean your daughter is overqualified. Schools love to get applications, even from people who have no hope of getting in, because rejecting applicants – even underqualified ones – boosts their stats (specifically, rejection rate). Nothing in the article you linked to suggests that these students are really “above par.”</p>
<p>And as many people have pointed out, the erroneous offers of admission are not legally binding on Fordham. And they cannot, as a practical matter, accommodate all these students.</p>
<p>Im a Fordham University alum and my daughter was one of the 2500 who received both emails only to be deferred. Have to tell you I read the first email several times. It has the Fordham letter head, colors and is signed by the admissions officer. Anyone out there whose parent is a good lawyer should give the school a hard time. Given that this school likes to think of themselves as “almost an ivy”, this is really a very very sloppy and inconsiderate thing to do. Let me remind all of you, the university is the one who supplied the emails etc. So who else is there to blame. Honestly folks, this school isn’t ll that and its way over priced. Im embarrassed for them. If one of their students did something like this with their work I’m sure the administration wouldn’t take " oops my bad " as an excuse which is basically what the school did.I had doubts about the school given the high cost and the high opinion the school as of themselves. Maybe they need a good lesson in humility. For the students who really wanted to go and thought they were in, Im sorry, go find another school who will treat you better</p>
<p>I really wish Fordham would give those who got the email but got deferred an earlier date of notification or some, ANY sort of consolation beyond the hastily written email they sent us. I know it isn’t their direct fault but it’s the right thing to do.</p>
<p>Alum82, sincere remorse for what happened to your daughter. Don’t lose hope if she got deferred–many students everywhere get deferred and eventually accepted. But I want to get some things straight… Firstly, unless the email address is “<a href=“mailto:enroll@fordham.edu”>enroll@fordham.edu</a>” or anything ending in fordham.edu – it ISN’T from Fordham. Regardless of whatever letter head, color or signature was used.</p>
<p>Secondly, Fordham isn’t the first highly-regarded school to do this (UCLA and Vassar comes to mind) and you can bet that it won’t be the last with computer/human error being inevitable. So I don’t know where exactly you’re getting at with the lawyer and suing idea.</p>
<p>Thirdly, college prices are rising everywhere. And Fordham is ranked #57 and #3 best university in the Financial Capital of the World, New York, New York.</p>
<p>Diceman, we are clearly not talking car sales and tires here! This is our future! If you did not get the actual emails, you have nooooooo clue what you are talking about. I got the actual original email and it 100% said…and I quote, “Congratulations once again on your admission to Fordham.”
No mistake from where it came and no reason to think we weren’t accepted.
Both emails (acceptance and oops) were signed by
John W. Buckley
Associate Vice President for Undergraduate Enrollment
Fordham University"
As a matter of FACT, the screw up email came DIRECTLY from “Fordham University” in my inbox. This is the exact email address that I have received notifications from in the past in response to questions regarding personal admissions questions. While there was confusion about the order in which the the good news was delivered , we were all hopeful that we got in.
The 2,500 of us that got screwed into believing we were accepted are not idiots! We are just hurt, confused and in some cases devastated by the roller coaster ride we didn’t ask for. </p>
<p>So,this is the original…" Congratulations once again on your admission to Fordham. We want to remind you to take advantage of the FAFSA Filing and Early Award Program from Fordham and to complete your FAFSA application. Completing your FAFSA through this service has many benefits…"<br>
It came from
“Fordham University” and was signed by…
John W. Buckley
Associate Vice President for Undergraduate Enrollment
Fordham University"
Then from “John Buckley” himself in my inbox 7 hours later after a blissful, acceptance, relief slumber…
Dear…
“We regret … email you received from our partner Student Aid Services (SAS) erroneously congratulated you on your admission to Fordham. We are very sorry for the misinformation and any confusion this may have caused. Please disregard that communication…
Sincerely,
John W. Buckley
Associate Vice President for Undergraduate Enrollment
Fordham University”
Acceptance and deferral both signed by
John W. Buckley
Associate Vice President for Undergraduate Enrollment
Fordham University
Glad they at least owned the huge mistake. Does not make any of us feel any better. Good luck and well wishes to those who still want in.</p>
<p>I feel very badly for those who experienced this. The frustration and hurt are justified. No, they may not be productive, but they are understandable. This whole process is very stressful. The highs are SUPER high and the lows terribly low.
In the end, we will all balance out.
T</p>
<p>Quick question, I applied Early Action using the Your Choice application and have not received any response? It seems everybody has received an e-mail regarding whether or not they were accepted but I did not get anything? Is this odd or are they still sending them out?</p>
<p>I say we press charges and create a class action. I will call the university later and have them hear my thoughts. Yes, I was one of the 2,500 who was accepted & then denied.</p>